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Falconn
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The old comparrison and rudementary arguement of linear versus non-linear attack patterns are as old as martial arts itself.

The basic idea behind these two schools of thought are based on the idea of how attacks, motions, and movements should be made and generated from.

What are your thoughts on the subject?

I encourage each of you to research and post your findings here. Include your opinions, sources and outcomes of your own experiments.

Happy hunting.

-Falcon

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I have been waiting for some of our students to jump in on this one.......

I will say ...that...in our system we use a combinaation of BOTH! Each has a use and a purpose depending on the instant of the situation!
I think what Mr WAGGONER WOULD LIKE TO HEAR is "what is the difference...and when would each be used"?
At least ...THAT is how I read the question.. and I will provide my answers at a later date......AFTER everyone else has taken a shot at it!

GOOD QUESTION Falcon!

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Linear vs. Non-linear..... I think that is a very narrow way to think about it. I think that it is more of a proper combination of both that will serve every one's needs. If you just focus on one or the other, you will find yourself lacking against more rounded martial artists.

Each has their pros and cons. Linear attacks may be faster and a little easier to chain together, but if your opponnent moves to the sides, you will find yourself at a position where you have to almost stop and change directions to keep attacking or even to defend. They may also be a bit easier to block in my opinion.

Non-linear attacks have more power because they travel farther before hitting their target. They are also easier to see coming for this same reason. And all you have to do is to step back to evade most of these type of attacks.

As with all "rules", there are exceptions to these. But the trick is to find a balance of linear and non-linear attacks that focus and rely on your strengths.

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Silverback,

Thanks for the reply. Think also of weapons and ABC's... that is attack by combination, ABD... Attack by draw (fake), and PIA... Progressive indirect attack. Perhaps you will then expand your knowledge and quickness to label this discussion as "narrow".

Try these basic motions in camparrison as you actually use them in application. They will become distinct as you choose which to build your foundation upon. Look at any sport fighter, combat artist or general brawler and you will see what they perscribe to. They will either have the natural, un-trained action and reactions, or will have a trained response. It is up to us as Martial Artist to constantly be in review of these philosophies so we may progress our own methods.

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Great comments so far.... Any other takers?

Come on folks...

-Falcon
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I didnt research it per say, but, not to be one dimensional, a combination of all angles would seem to be the most effective. When observing amatuer fighters at our dojo, including myself I mostly see straight ahead attacks. Probably the biggest criticism I give to myself is the lack of lateral movement especially when in a defensive pattern. I prefer to just go back and forth and see who can hit the hardest. For those with good knees who can still move around well, lateral movement would serve them well.
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I believe it always has to depends on the situation. All angles are useful in different scenarios; however if the opponent is more proficient at defending one more than the other you have to adjust.

I would think they are just as much dependable on each other. you can never just rely on one or the other.
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I completely agree with Andrew, the kick or punch is used at what ever angle that you are in whether it is straight or of to a side it's all up to you,the angle and your style of martial arts
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Good job everyone.

Do any of you have an idea of how to train lateral movement offensive and defensively. Any good training methods, drills, etc.

Keep the responses flowing.

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