shawsey
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newbie looking to buy fishing kayak for sydney to go thru heads
hi all, I have tested scupper pro on flat water seems fine. After I get experience & training, i am keen to take thru the heads. Have option on 2nd hand Cobra Expedition (which seems quite bit longer than others out there) but havent used it yet. Do you think itll be stable enough ? Any other kayak which would be better suited to me? I do favour a longer kayak so i can paddle further.
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Phil
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Rod L
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Re: newbie looking to buy fishing kayak for sydney to go thru heads
Shawsey,
Welcome to the forum mate.
There are a few guys on here that fish "out side" so you'll get some good advice.
I haven't paddled either kayak so I can't help you out much.
I look forward to your reports when you get up and going though.
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Rod
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Re: newbie looking to buy fishing kayak for sydney to go thru heads
Yes, welcome Shawsey 
The Scupper Pro is a good rough-water kayak so it would certainly suit most conditions you are likely to use it in. It's also one of the fastest... provided the narrow-ish seat & wet ride don't bother you so don't overlook it for going out wide.
The Expedition certainly looks like an open-water speedster too but if you have to launch or return through the surf the long length & minimal rocker may make it a handfull.
A kayak of 5.45m long like the Expedition should have a rudder and Cobra's style of pedal where you push the rudder with your toes while your feet stay up against a fixed footrest is one of the best for performance paddling. The deck is low to prevent windage so be prepared for a wet ride.
Make sure you examine the deck & look for suitable mounting locations for the sorts of accessories (fish finders, rod holders etc.) you'd like to fit 'coz with all those big hatches I don't know where you'd have space to mount things. The lack of a tankwell may be a concern too as you don't want to be opening hatches to get at gear whilst at sea any more than you have to. If it had a tankwell you'd have some on-deck storage.
Stability is a combination of many things, like the kayak's width, seating height, hull shape, your body shape (ie is most of your weight down low around your waist or up high around your shoulders) etc. so it's something you'll need to decide for yourself. Remember though.. stability can be learned, just like when you learned to ride a bicycle. Don't go buying the most stable kayak you can find at first as you may outgrow it quickly.
Other kayak choices for you would be the O.K. Prowler & the Perception Swing. The Swing is short at 4.0m but it's a proven performer offshore and does O.K. in the surf. Another option would be the Wilderness Systems Tarpon T160i but they aren't available down here... yet 
A few guys in the Dawn Prawn kayak fishing club out of Mona Vale have Prowlers & Swings so you might be able to arrange a test paddle if you contact them.
Hope this helps !
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Re: newbie looking to buy fishing kayak for sydney to go thru heads
I found this discussion on fast fishing kayaks over at Kayak Fishing Stuff with comments on the Cobra Expedition.
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Re: newbie looking to buy fishing kayak for sydney to go thru heads
Found this comment re: the Cobra Expedition over on Kayak Fishing Stuff today..
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I picked up my used Cobra Expedition this week and took it out yesterday for the first time. Impressions, fast, extremely quiet, comfortable, a little wet but not any more than my Tourer in the conditions I was in. Didn't have to open the venturi vent most of the day even in up to one foot waves in windy conditions, though I could see where it would be necessary in big wave situations.
The hull is totally different from the other Cobras in its V shape, and there is NO hull slap, very nice. The boat is a little tippy, but its a performance tradeoff. Because of this, I agree with Jon, its not a viable fishing kayak - but... it can be adapted as one and grown into, some do out on the west coast.
Storage is right on par with the Tourer, 2 A hatches, one round, and a rectangular behind the seat which held my tackle.
Mine has no rudder, tracks very straight, and foot room is generous. I felt comfortable.
Its probably the closest thing I'll see to an actual sea kayak for my purposes (Fast). Its a joy to paddle, a paddlers sit on top - Any other Expedition owners out there that paddle or fish? What do you think?
Though it might help.
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Re: newbie looking to buy fishing kayak for sydney to go thru heads
Hello,
One thing I didn't realise about SOME of the Cobra kayaks (Expedition was one of them) when I was looking, is the lack of thickness and support in the hull. One sales rep (who actually stocked them) showed me how if you applied pressure to the seat (similar to if you sat in it) the sides do warp a fare bit. If you're looking at launching through rough water or chasing larger fish with fixed rods, this might be another consideration.
Other than that, they looked pretty good.
Good luck!
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