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Horrible Problems NEED HELP!
Hello. Thank god i found this place i thought i was just going crazy. Doctors where telling me im fine. My mom,who is a nurse, was telling me im paranoid and imagining things. Let me begin by explaining what ive been through:
I use to be a hardcore gamer. Ever since about 15 years old, i played counter-strike nonstop almost every day. I never really noticed any problems. Then, at about 17 years old, i was constantly having flu-like symptons.
Coughing, nausea, sore throat, runny nose, headaches, eye aches, sunlight bothered me.
Sometimes, i would get the worse headache you could imagine. I literally thought i was going to die. It was like a migraine, but felt more like a 5 foot pole was peircing my left eye socket. I would get that occasionally for about half a day and i wouldnt be able to move or do anything. I would wake up and feel cold shivers, be very weak and tired. I couldnt think straight or complete anything on time. I'm a pretty quick learner, so i was able to catch on quickly to the concepts but my ability to think it through was pretty much destroyed.
I never knew what the problem was. Until now.
Just to test it i stopped using the computer for about a month. My co-workers made fun of me, "haha joe are you actually quitting WoW?" Well, let me tell you, after quitting WoW ive never felt better in my life. I could think straight, i had plenty of energy, i was working out and having a blast. Everythign was great. However, i cant escape it. I still want to play WoW, alot of my real life friends play it. I need to do essays for school and research them online. I need to check my e-mails. Life requires a computer nowadays, and i simply cant stand using one.
Ive tried everything in my home:
Hanns G 28" LCD: I call this the brain fryer. Literally, thats what i feel like after using it for more than 5 minutes.
AMW 19" LCD: Slightly better, however after about 20 minutes same effects. Last night i used it as an expirment to see if it would help(the quality is complete crap on that thing so i thought hey, who knows). Didnt. I woke up today with splitting eye pain.
42" Vizio Plasma: I plugged in my macbook downstairs, but even the plasma gave me the same problems. Although it took significantly longer(maybe 2-3 hours), once it kicked in it felt jut as bad if not worse.
17" Viewsonic Optiquest TFT?(i think) LCD: This is what im using right now. Out of all the junk in my house this causes the least pain. It tingles for a bit but i get used to it. I feel a bit odd when i use it but its the closest i can get to using a monitor without feeling like im melting.
My dad is going to bring me an old CRT from his work and ill see if that helps. I tried the projector thing at work(i work at best buy. And in the computer department which makes the problems i have even worse). The projector was one of our good ones and i stared at that for maybe 30 seconds before i felt irritated. I really dont know what i should do. Its driving me nuts.
On a last note, i feel there is permanent damage done. I have the same effects as a chronic pot smoker/crack addict. I smoked pot maybe 5 times in my entire life, never did any other drug. Yet, i have horrible memory loss and a pale face with black under my eye sockets. Basically i catch on to things quickly as i always did, but any kind of task becomes daunting. Once im done with alot of my school work im going to try just a complete shut down break for a few months and see if i can get my memory back.
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Re: Horrible Problems NEED HELP!
Hi, I'm SO sorry to hear about your tough experiences. As you can see from my site's testimonials, shake hands with me & many others!
You're NOT alone in this.
I responded to you via PM, and I hope that fellow members will share their experiences with you as well.
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Re: Horrible Problems NEED HELP!
Hello nice to meet you.
I read your PM, ill see if i can scavenge enough cash to try that out. Sounds odd(mud bath?) lol, but hey who knows. My manager at work apparently has the same problems as me(he plays everquest), and he told me to just quit cold turkey for a while. He said its like a motion-sickness feeling that no light source would fix. I personally think hes just saying that so i dont quit lol, hes shady and it seemed like he was making some of that stuff up. Oh well.
Ive tried a 13" REALLLY old compaq CRT(1997). It was even worse. I turned the refresh to 85 hz but didnt fix anything. I felt throbbing eye pain.
Im taking lots of hot baths lately they seem to help. What you're saying does make sense.
Question though:
Whats the overall solution? Old school dells are still going to cause problems, arent they?
And, are you sure its not something serious? What i find really wierd is that projectors make me feel sick? My manager said its like a mini-seizure basically. Same effects without the actually siezure. Is there something i should get checked? And if there is, what should i tell the doctor. I found out that you kind of need to know what your problem is BEFORE the doctor can help you. Symptoms alone usually just lead to random drug prescriptions that make things worse.
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Well, if your comfort zone is to deal with doctors (who usually don't have a clue any more than members on this board or survey), then maybe you should try a type of place like this first:
http://www.naturaleyecare.com/
Because at least they don't seem to be skeptics about how very harmful computers are!
I've been to a doctor who was a skeptic just like yours, and you know that's no picnic (and that's an understatement).
Unfortunately the un-healthcare system makes a practice of skepticism, since that's their comfort zone.
You can also try the links on my site - some of them are supposedly professionals (that's if the links aren't outdated by now).
There's also a photosensitive epilepsy yahoo group which may interest you. It's very low traffic - though you can try clicking on the email link to its moderator & correspond with her. She had been using a Thinkpad a few years back & liked it, so I bought a similar one off Ebay but it didn't help me (that's how compromised I've become.
P.S. What type of projector did you try - and was it a good resolution? How bright was it, and how far were you positioned BOTH from the screen, and ALSO from the projector? As I mentioned in my PM, it maybe more useful discussing this with Sorenz or Heavycomputeruser, since they actually have been using projectors.
P.P.S. Some REAL GENUINE detox options are:
Salt-Baths/Followed by Mud -- under BALMY SUN
As per May/June/July Sequence mentioned here:
http://www.freewebs.com/eclectives/solutions.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/eclectives/messclub.htm
The salt/mud need not be JUST at Dead Sea.
Maybe try Glen Ivy Spa, or Ciochocinek, Poland.
Also:
You might try Dr. Rea (of Environmental Health Center of Dallas) or any doctors affiliated with him who maybe closer to you
I'm also hoping to get a bounceback chair (but I didn't test that yet). I'm also soon going to test Klamath blue green algae.
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Re: Horrible Problems NEED HELP!
Dan, see my response to the enclosures idea here:
http://www.runboard.com/bcomputermonitorpain.f2.t63
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Re: Horrible Problems NEED HELP!
i put the computer in an enclosure and it didnt solve anything. It has something to do with the screen. Basically when i shut the light off my pains go away. I think monitorp was right about light being a factor. My sister has an Ipod touch and i noticed that thing starts to hurt my eyes very quickly after using it, even though the screen is so small. I think its either electromagnetic or soemthing to do with light, i dont know.
Also that whole detox thing has nothing to do with monitors, they only do that to people who over-dose on drugs lol.
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What i find really odd is the fact that its not just my eyes i'm noticing pain from. My entire body hurts. The second i turn on a screen i get very itchy around my body. Then, i get a tension in the upper part of my left eye. Finally, my eye sockets feel inflamed and the left side of my chest has pains. Some of my symptoms would indicate a heart attack or stroke, yet ive done numerous EKG's and MRI's and they have found no problems what so ever.
It could be the light, but i think electricity has something to dow it as well. Anyway, im not a scientist but i have common sense. I can observe things and see cause-effect relationships, so this is whats going on with my body right now.
As i said ill try the spa-thing, but i would love a long-term solution.
Oddly enough, my buddy has a 32" sony trinitron TV. I played garage band on that thing for about 4 hours and i felt ok, or atleast i didnt have symptoms nearly as bad as i do with current display.
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Yea I can't use LCDs either with Web surfing or games I get motion sickness then my eyes start burning. I'm using a 2001 Dell p991 Trinitron and I hope it never breaks.
ALthoug they sell them on ebay for 50.00 or so.
Sometimes Sunglasses can Help but I found somtimes that doesn't make a differeence either.
The type of Videocard you have too can make a difference (older ones seem better) even the type of Processor you have can make a difference. Because I bought a whole new PC and
I tired my old graphics card and I still had eye strain on a CRT.
People say it takes time to get used to it which is BS really I was in so much pain eye strain pain last week with the new PC I had a old Dell I bought off ebay.
OLED and SED (if that ever comes around)might be more tolerable but OLED looks painfully bright..
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Right now I am using an LCD. I am on the computer 10 hours a day. Now, I rarely have any symptoms. I was worse than all of you 6 months ago. I've done extensive research, which saved me. I don't sell products or advice. But for some dumb reason you guys ignore my advice. None of you contacted the doctors I recommended, nor have done any of the suggested protocols. Yes, the computer is putting out chemicals, but that's not the problem. I would get the same symptoms on the computer working OUTSIDE with the wind blowing. The problem most of you are suffering from is EMF. I had it so bad, that other electrical devices( cell phone, tv, refrigerator, car, van, lights) were making me sick. So let me know if your serious about getting help.
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quote:
gibby gilbert wrote:
Right now I am using an LCD. I am on the computer 10 hours a day. Now, I rarely have any symptoms. I was worse than all of you 6 months ago. I've done extensive research, which saved me. I don't sell products or advice. But for some dumb reason you guys ignore my advice. None of you contacted the doctors I recommended, nor have done any of the suggested protocols. Yes, the computer is putting out chemicals, but that's not the problem. I would get the same symptoms on the computer working OUTSIDE with the wind blowing. The problem most of you are suffering from is EMF. I had it so bad, that other electrical devices( cell phone, tv, refrigerator, car, van, lights) were making me sick. So let me know if your serious about getting help.
You know of course that I probably went to more doctors & naturopaths & what-not than all of you (see all my testimonials in the MISCELLANEOUS BOARDS section, as well as the Heavey Metal Doctor Data charts I posted here.
If the problem is just EMF, then why did my NutriEnergetic printout list:
VISUAL ACUITY as extreme for me?
I suspect that Cryosin's Visual Acuity would also be extreme were he checked out via NutriEnergetics, or other quantum diagnostics devices. (Like maybe the SCIO system).
Cryosin:
See what I posted up above re: Visual Acuity diagnostics. Also, I trust you got my PM. Also, if you go to Glen Ivy Spa, please make sure to follow the "dead sea sequence" as mentioned in below URL:
NOTE:
15 min. immersion maybe as effective as 1/2 hr.
http://www.freewebs.com/eclectives/messclub.htm
P.S. I know what you & HeavyComputer mean. I myself also found some older BIG CRT's at a local community college to be much more tolerable than anything else I used. It could be because they had alot of use and their phosphors had been outgassed to a large degree, making their display much "softer". I don't know for sure. I also seem to remember posts in past research during surfing the web, where posters mentioned Trinitrons as being pleasant to use.
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