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www.freewebs.com/eclectives/mymetalcharts.html monitorp's metal charts[/url]
Yeah, I went to lots of doctors too. I would say you could go to 10,000 doctors until you find ONE who knows what's wrong with you.
Unfortunately, you refuse to go to the doctors I recommend. Furthermore you refuse to take my advice on lifestyle, diet, exercise and supplements. Lets be clear on the cause and effects of EMF. Why are some affected and others are not? TOXINS- primarily heavy metal. If you have high quantities of heavy metal in you, you are going to be affected by EMF.
Call right now 805-640-0180 and ask to speak to Dr. Bernhoft or the doctors assistant. Ask if they have had any patients suffering from EMF? Then ask if they were cured? Then ask how? They have treated many people suffering just like YOU! How did they do it? COMPLETE elimination of HEAVY METALS. As I mentioned before, Dr. Bernhoft is not some quack online doctor. He graduated from Harvard. Head surgeon UCSF. Board certified surgeon. He also suffered from toxins. Got well, and started practicing environmental medicine. So he's been there, done that too.
I can give phone numbers of over a dozen doctors who will back up my claims. These doctors do not sell products online. They're in the business of helping sick people like YOU.
I am so glad you posted your metal charts. You are making my case for me! You have elevated levels of MERCURY on ALL of your tests. Elevated levels of Arsenic, Cadmium and Lead as well!!! What can I say. Your search should be over, but maybe you are looking for a magic pill. The sad part is that by not eliminating these toxins, they will destroy your brain, organs, arteries ect. They destroy you by oxidizing the cells in your body, destroying your dna in the process. They also disrupt your bodies glutathione production. Glutathione is your own bodies antioxidant and metal eliminator. So you can continue to be sick and "know better than me" or you can listen and take advice from SOMEONE WHO IS WELL NOW.
BTW, I read your survey and the people who improved DETOXED.
Also, you mentioned you did 11 edta chelations. Most doctors I have spoken with, suggest 40-50 chelations for someone like you. So you never gave it a chance, too bad. Also, don't listen to a physicians assistant in regards to how many chelations should be done. You also mentioned they were making you tired, well, that tells me that they were working. As I mentioned to you over the phone and via email, some people are genetically limited in their ability to remove toxins. I think you are one of them. If you are interested in genetic testing, I can explain in more detail. Also, sodium edta is not used for chelation now, calcium edta is, and it is much faster than sodium.
I was as sick as any of you. I went to Emergency Room twice. I had to be driven to the hospital because I was too weak to drive. I was vomiting everyday. I lost 45 pounds in a month. I had over 30 symptoms. Now I am fine. I detoxed by lifestyle change, exercise, diet, supplements, over the counter metal detox products and saunas.
Can you explain why the mud baths make you feel better. If you can't, I can. Why so much resistance to help? I don't get it.
My objective is to help others who are suffering like I had. It sucks not having anyone or any doctor understand what it's like. Everyone thinks your a HYPOCHONDRIAC and it's all in your head, because they are not experiencing the same problems. It's really tragic. Someday, I would like to write about my experiences. So many doctors are ignorant and there are too many bogus products, which don't do anything except drain those who are suffering.
So, to everyone reading this, you can listen and take advice from someone who is STILL suffering, and getting worse for years now. Or you can listen and take advice from someone who completely CURED HIMSELF with over the counter products within months.
I do take offense to those who try to undermine my research and personal experiences. My research, personal experiences and conversations with experts are REAL.
To better health.
gibby gilbert
PS: Stop with all the monitor studies and research. Some of you are still affected by projectors, which shouldn't put out the phosphors and chemicals that monitors do. While some monitors will be better than others, it's due to the level of magnetic field emitted, measured with a Gaussmeter in mGs or mill-Gauss.
http://www.lessemf.com/gauss.html
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What do you say to the fact that I feel much better when using an enclosure which sucks the air away through ducts?
I read the doctor's website and he's saying sauna helps volitilize chemicals from under the skin out. I don't think that would help for heavy metals but for rather for the outgassed toxins.
Are you sure you feel better because you've removed metals alone? maybe you feel better because you've outgassed the flame retardants out of you.
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These are some good questions.
First, I believe the enclosures would work due to the fact that EMFs would be greatly reduced or eliminated altogether.
Second, as I mentioned before, I got ill while working outside with the wind blowing 15mph.
Third, I feel no symptoms while working on brand new monitors. Regardless of size or outgassing. My current computer is brand new. I know that monitors outgas and I do believe people can get ill from these gasses.
Forth, saunas remove metal by sweat. Did you know your sweat is more toxic than your urine? It's common knowledge that exercise helps prevent disease, but does anyone know why? One reason, Toxins and Metals are eliminated from the body by sweating.
Lastly, I'm not the first person to improve from EMFs by detoxing. There are blogs out there with testimonials of others who improved by metal elimination. Doctor Berhoft has helped many with the same condition. The top environmental doctors have done the same with other people. So there's plenty of case history to back up what I'm suggesting.
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I assure you Gibby that I went thru WAY WAY more than most others, so don't jump to conclusions anymore because I resent that.
For example, you jumped to conclusions re: calcium EDTA without doing research on the fact that I have gone that route as well.
YOU don't know how much the medical system in my area (and elsewhere I've tried) is riddled with evil uncaring practitioners.
I have absolutely NO faith in them anymore, no, NOT EVEN your precious doctor.
I emphasize again, I do NOT have faith in your doctor, since life follows this cardinal rule:
DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS
Most of them are just in it to make top e.z. dollar, not to help those who are TRUE lemons (which is what my body is).
A FURTHER EMPHASIS I MUST MAKE:
I speak for myself, not for other members such as Cryosin or Heavy or others. For all I know, they themselves could well be helped via the detox route you prescribe. As for myself, it's NOT as if I'm giving up, bcause I'm continuing to try other avenues, such as blue green algae & bounceback chair (if I'd only luck out enough to make room in my house for it) among others.
By the way, Gibby, if you're really so sure your doctor can help me, would you be willing to put your money where your mouth is and foot the bill? That would be the true acid test. I've gone thru so much heartache and monetary loss on the part of conventional & alternative practitioners, that I can't handle their callous treatment anymore. Do you read me loud & clear?
You had further not listened to the fact that my case is WAY more complicated, because the QXCI, and LIFE systems both pinpointed the ROOT SOURCE of my incurability as being due to an unremembered trauma during infancy (or even prior). Would your "precious" doctor even acknowledge, let alone zero in on, such a phenomenon?
Furthemore,
according to quantum physics diagnostics which I doubt you'll want to bother researching, there are more issues going on inside me than JUST heavy metals (most of which were already detoxed out of me anyway.
jWhat you're forgetting, is that I did NOT bother to take yet ANOTHER expensive Doctors Data blood test merely to check out what progress was made by those tedious IV chelations.
Remember that those IV chelations were SUBSEQUENT to the last Doctors Data Chart which was done on me.
So on what basis are you presuming to judge me?
Did I ever state that mercury/metals aren't factors for others? On the contrary, that issue is at the TOP OF MY SITE!!
Isn't it my site's header which galvanized you to detox of heavy metals? Or had you found out re: the heavy metals connection via a different site?
(Whatever the case, it makes no difference, since my point remains.)
I wish you'd both realize that not everyone's experiences mimic yours. This tendency to jump to conclusions has caused me alot of frustation, so I'd appreciate if you'd both refrain from judging me. What I decide to do based on my very real experiences is my own business.
Please read my below Welcome posting, wherein I'd requested that members keep posts courteous, and I'd appreciate if you'd respect that. Thanks.
http://com3.runboard.com/bcomputermonitorpain.f2.t4
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ya gilbert i tried the eye glasses. They helped for a moment but yesterday i had to skip work because of an aching headache. Same as raw i would like you to send me some medicines i can buy so i can try it out.
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Some points & ideas:
(1) Based on my real experience trying a zillion stuff, I found that the
15/15 min. sequence of:
Salt-Bath / Mud-Immersion / Under-Sun
is WAY more powerful than chelation or other stuff I tried. The only reason I never got back to any spa's is due to my private situation.
In fact, InfraRed Saunas may mimic the Sun's effect for all I know, but the Salt/Mud sequence may be more natural & less risky.
Also ask Jason Eaton of Eyton's Earth his experience at thermal pool in Utah. There's many other testimonials.
(2) Maybe Similisan Cataract Care can help? Since it's touted for light sensitivity and floaters. I may try it via VitaCost.
(3) Cryosin, Heavy, is there any tech expert you may know at BestBuy or elsewhere who would know if one of the technologies in the below army URL would be tolerable for those with hypersensitive Visual Acuity?
http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/computers/gallery.html
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Ok its been a while but ill post an update. I've now hijacked my parents living room and im using a 42" Vizio plasma. It seems to make most of my pain very minimal. I get some irritation but for the most part a good nights rest and it all goes away. With LCD's i would have flu-like symptoms, agonizing headaches, dizziness. It was horrible. With this plasma i feel a bit wierd when i use it still however any discomfort goes away in an hour or two after i stop. With the LCD it seemed like a 3x longer pain to use ratio(i use it for 1 hour pain for 3 hours). Also those trinitron monitors that all of you guys rave about are true. My friend had one of those and i was able to play guitar hero for hours on end without any problems. It was a 32" though so i dont think it would look too good for a computer.
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I'm curious, how far are you from the screen, and what type of mouse/keyboard?
I'm getting mixed feedback re: Plasma displays.
It seems to bother JohnDays (and others).
Whereas at my local community college, an instructor had told me a few years ago that people have found plasma's more tolerable.
So the discrepancy may have something to do with either distance from screen (i.e. a HUGE screen allows for ALOT of distance), or else it may be related to how much usage the plasma (or LCD or CRT) was subjected to. I.E. the older anything is, the more likely the BAD STUFF such as phosphors/chemicals/etc. got depleted & therefore not so lethal.
P.S. You may wanna check my post elsewhere re: VOIPS (acronym for external therapies which are tops)
Also:
If either you or HeavyUser or any qualified-other would be interested in becoming webmaster of this site, it sure needs transferring elsewhere due to Freewebs trashing it w/ads lately. Otherwise the site's headed downhill in a handbasket, because people are probly getting so annoyed by the ads, that they run away without seeing the info informing them re: all angles.
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It might be the size of the screen with the Plasma I get motion sickness with them.
They have 32 inch plasmas out now but Plasmas are suppose to be inferior to LCD but I dislike them both because they don't work for me.
Projectors all the way =)
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It might be the size of the screen with the Plasma I get motion sickness with them.
They have 32 inch plasmas out now but Plasmas are suppose to be inferior to LCD but I dislike them both because they don't work for me.
Projectors all the way =)
Ya i get a bit of motion sickness as well. However im much more tolerable to slight motion sickness than 8 hour long headaches(LCD's). There are some 120hz displays out there and those might prove tolerable. Also, i think EMF has a role in this.
The closer is it to any screen, the quicker i start getting flu-like symptoms. I think thats why computer monitors are so bad for me(us). Even the plasma when im really close i start to feel really akward.
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