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Pricing a Bull
I have a yearling Holstein bull that i am trying to sell, he's well bred (Talent from 7 gens VG/EX) and a go looking animal, TB tested clear last week what would be a fare price to ask?
I am trying not to make this look like an advert as I would like advice on this
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3/7/2008, 11:17
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Production is also pretty important!
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3/7/2008, 12:10
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Re: Pricing a Bull
The ones that we keep, we get a $1000 (US) as soon as they are big enough to breed heifers. It really depends on the market in your area. We don't have that much room so we sell most of ours to our neighbor a few days after they are born. We normally charge $100 over what veal calves are bringing.
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3/7/2008, 12:28
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Production is also pretty important!
his dam has a best record of 12278kg 3.83 3.35 on a liquid contract and is LP50 and all seven of the cows behind him are 10000kg plus cows
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3/7/2008, 18:59
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Pricing a Bull
1700- 2200? We find that the BCS of the bull himself has a really big impact on the price you get. Sounds foolish but the fatter the better!
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3/7/2008, 20:32
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Re: Pricing a Bull
Are the advisors you refer to perhaps the same ones that now say to breed the cows to b&w and contract rear the heifers?
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4/7/2008, 7:49
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Pricing a Bull
Here if I have a common pedigreed, average looking breeding age bull I can get $1,000. If I have a great looking, wonderful pedigreed bull, I can usually get $1,000!!! Maybe $1,100 at most. I am always amazed as to what dairyman want and look for when they choose which bull they want.
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17/7/2008, 1:23
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Re: Pricing a Bull
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I am always amazed as to what dairyman want and look for when they choose which bull they want.
Here it's usually a bull that looks like a British Friesian but whose progeny milk like a Holstein.
Exactly, this is what they are looking for.I try to steer clear of fat bulls. They dont consider how unfit the bull may be from being in a shed all the time. The first thing a fat bull will do is lose BCS, this will affect his performance.
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17/7/2008, 11:01
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The ones that amaze me are the ones that think color is an important factor - one guy wants a black bull, others want a white bull...
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18/7/2008, 17:17
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Re: Pricing a Bull
I know a family that milks several thousand cows in the Phoenix area. They always look for white bulls. They claim white cows core body temps run three degrees cooler in the summer.
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18/7/2008, 18:02
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I know a family that milks several thousand cows in the Phoenix area. They always look for white bulls. They claim white cows core body temps run three degrees cooler in the summer.
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18/7/2008, 18:30
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I know a family that milks several thousand cows in the Phoenix area. They always look for white bulls. They claim white cows core body temps run three degrees cooler in the summer.
In certain circumstances there are good reasons for selecting either white or black cattle. Generally black cattle are selected in countries with a lot of summer sunshine ... white headed cattle are pre-disposed to squamous cell carcinoma (cancer ) of the eyelids and are more likely to suffer sunburn (uv light is reflected by the colour black). That said, black does absorb infra red, so potentially they are more susceptible to heat stress. However, if the black cows do really have core temp.s 3 degrees higher, they would actually have clinical heat stroke and be in urgent need of veterinary attention, and the whole herd would likely be under severe heat stress whether white, black, brown .....
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19/7/2008, 1:12
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Jeash
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Are you talking degrees in Farenheit or Celsius? I was talking degrees in Farenheit. We have sick cows come in with temps around 104 F and I wouldn't call them in heat stroke.
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19/7/2008, 15:38
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Plenty of sick cows with infections are pyrexic with temp.s 104F +, however to have a temperature raised to this level due to summer heat alone, rather than infection, would be diagnosed as heat stroke.
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20/7/2008, 0:04
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Jeash
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Never new that, we have cows whose temps go up a degree or two in the holding pen when it gets in the mid ninties. The Phoenix area spends the entire summer in the 110 degree range. They have serious heat problems.
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20/7/2008, 2:11
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I have seen herds that had every cow with a temp between 103 and 106 F just due to the hot weather. When it reaches 107 plus is when I get scared of heat stroke.
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20/7/2008, 3:28
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