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I've heard that Aerosol sprays such as clear magic are now banned in Canada. Maybe Armcrest could comment, I think he's heard something. I found an article relating to it. It states that Clear Magic and Black Magic are now on recall.

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I heard something about this awhile ago, glad i got a case and a half here.

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Just thought of it but it states that the "Doc" products are recalled but there is still products available from Sullivans.

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I think Armcrest heard that sullivan's are now illegal too

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Thanks for posting this LRG. We actually stock this here.

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No Problem. What do you mean by stock it?


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At Genetics Australia I mean.

We have merchandise i.e. Sheathes, gloves, tail paint, bull collecting products + semen processing and far more stuff than I care to remember. We stock show essentials including Clear and Black Magic....

Needless to say I passed the word on to our merchandise department, especially as the recall contains the nasty 'c' word (carcinogen) we have to be concerned about this recall.

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I am sure that a few of us American show enthusiasts would be willing to help get some across the border for you.
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I'm not overly concerned yet. It was still on display at the farm mech show a few weeks ago

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quote:

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I'm not overly concerned yet. It was still on display at the farm mech show a few weeks ago




It's being withdrawn because it contains a carcinogenic substance, but you're not worried because you know where you can still get some? Amazing. emoticon
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it's still for sale on public display

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I work with a lot of stuff that can potentially cause carcinogens. I just won't be shooting clear magic up my nose any more.
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I've never heard of anything bad happening with the sprays ether. i tend to use it quite a bit too

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Why not start a poll.

Do you :-

A) Continue to fill the air around your cow with an aerosol that 'contains methylene chloride, which is prohibited in cosmetic products in aerosol containers. Methylene chloride is a potential carcinogen to animals and humans, poses an inhalation hazard, and can convert in the blood to carbon monoxide' because the cow looks pretty when she sparkles and anyway nothing bad will happen.

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B) Learn to appreciate the cow without the sparkles.
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quote:

ben warren wrote:

Why not start a poll.

Do you :-

A) Continue to fill the air around your cow with an aerosol that 'contains methylene chloride, which is prohibited in cosmetic products in aerosol containers. Methylene chloride is a potential carcinogen to animals and humans, poses an inhalation hazard, and can convert in the blood to carbon monoxide' because the cow looks pretty when she sparkles and anyway nothing bad will happen.

or

B) Learn to appreciate the cow without the sparkles.




Or we could start a poll

A : Do we keep using tractors just because they make farming easyer

or

B : Go back to our cave, hit our women, and live as hunters.


 

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Why dont we try to reduce all kinds of pollution, insted of trying too ban the things we personally dont use/like.

Remember our high producing cows are one of the biggest methan polluters.
Here in Denmark, there has been talks about putting a tax on every cow (100€/cow/year), because of that.




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How about C. Don't spray clear or black magic around their face so that the cow has a decreased chance of inhaling. This reminds me to tell the guys doing the fitting not to smoke around the cows either. Second hand smoke can be deadly.
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Between smoking whilst useing aerosols, in areas full of straw, swapping the fuses from clippers that keep shorting and various other ways of being non-compliant with Health and Safety, most fitters are an accident waiting to happen.

And that's before the after show refreshments.

Having said that, surely if the spray contains chemicals that can cause cancer it is safer for all those involved if they are not used.



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This probably isn't a new discovery.

Therefore, the burden surely is on the makers of the aerosol to remove the carcinogen from the product and find a suitable alternative, thus avoiding a ban on its product.

It shouldn't be a big deal, should it? I would think people like L'Oreal and Garnier have already done the hard work finding the alternative.





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quote:

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Having said that, surely if the spray contains chemicals that can cause cancer it is safer for all those involved if they are not used.





Just like smoking or eating grilled meat, both are known to cause cancer.









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There have been warnings printed on the sprays for years saying this information. I don't know why the government suddenly decided to take action on already public knowledge. It's a risk I'm willing to take when using this product. There are worse things out there. And when did they start start producing it with sparkles? I've never seen the sparkle variety before. I was only aware of clear and black. Maybe the sparkle one isn't on recall.

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Food chain safety

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 I've seen guys using foam in the top line to make the hair stand at attention.
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There has been one incident in Canada with a child that was standing near where a cow was getting prepared to go into the ring and clear and black magic was sprayed and the kid inhaled some and he had a heart attack and died.
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Would that be a bad allergic fraction/ freak occurence?

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i dont think anybody really knows why it happened but they dont want to take anymore chances as it could lead to a bad rep for the dairy industry and lead to lawsuits so i think thats why they banned it. And also because there are carcinogens in it that cause cancer.
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For those who want some heavy reading on the carcinogenic qualities mentioned above here is some from our government >> Click ere


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Interesting article, thanks.

Seems that they haven't pinned very much on it at this stage, other than neurological toxicity at higher exposure rates. Still, the question is, would it be a substance I'd like to be forced to breathe in a poorly ventilated building (e.g. a show shed) as a spectator, or as the next door show hand?

Probably not.

Bit like smoking in confined spaces. Its not fair to do it where the wind can't take it away from other people.

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if they ban tailpaint I'll really be cross
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I went and bought some the other day. None of the suppliers had heard anything about the recall. You would think that if it was recalled, the government would make it public and take it off the shelves. Nobody has heard of anything yet.

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Found out some more information about why the recall was put in place. From what I hear, somebody in Quebec noticed there was a health labeln on the bottle, but it was only in English. Since everything in Canada is supposed to be labeled bilingually, they complained. That is when Health Canada learned about the carcinogenic, and thus a recall is born.

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