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Re: Previous poll results
Intimidated appears in the 1st paragraph. As for Canadians, in general we have an identity crisis, sometimes it seems, we could be swallowed up by our neighbors to the south, if we don't keep a little bit of our uniqueness, it no longer would be North American genetics, it would be American genetics were talking about. We Canadians are a mere drop in the bucket as far as world production goes, one county in Califoria could probably, supply all the milk we need, in our whole country. Type is our forte, if we don't keep it, we no longer would exsist.
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6/4/2004, 16:04
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FiringOnAllFour
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Re: Previous poll results
Canuk
'Intimidated' appears in the first paragraph. Nothing suggests it must refer to me.
(I was in very severe business mode when I wrote that. I can be light-hearted too, but my post wouldn't have been as effective).
I, for one, have never sought to lump American and Canadian people together. I know this can be offensive - just as I don't like Northern Irish and Southern Irish to be lumped together. You are right to hold your identity. People are naturally diverse. Don't be fearful that you will be swallowed up by your neighbours. That will not happen. Just pray you are not standing too close when they are swallowed up by the next superpower. Nations rise, and nations fall. Britain has already been there. AND, we are about to be swallowed up by the European Union.
As for type breeding, I thought there was more behind this! If it is the way forward for Canada, then I whole-heartedly support the policy. If it helps national moral, then more to the good. We (the rest of the world) will be happy to sample the best of what you produce!
At least I can find you easily on a map. Get your glasses on if you want to find me!
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6/4/2004, 19:37
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FiringOnAllFour
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Re: Previous poll results
Foxleigh
First of all, warm congratulations on the 5%bf lift. A Jersey man would be proud! I have been away for a break and didn't see your announcement.
Would you mind if I asked a little of the background of that bulk test?
Daily cow yield? Stage of lactation? Block calving?
What diet are your cows on, if you don't mind giving away your secret? Me would like to know velly much!
PS I mean a man with jersey cows, rather than a man from the island of jersey. Although he would be proud too!
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6/4/2004, 19:53
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stuart m
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Re: Previous poll results
Haven@t the NZ breeders who are using Bellwood and Mountain bioodlines taken their eye off the ball just as much as a man blinded by the showring . These cows need more than 15 kg dm of grass dm/day to perform. They woud have been better off with A.F.Prefect or W.PM.Bramble.
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6/4/2004, 22:13
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simon powell
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Re: Previous poll results
IN DEFENSE OF COWTALK.
FOAF and Ron,
Whilst I appreciate that what you are both trying to do, is to encourage more posts concerning the economic production of milk, rather than breeding philosophies. I feel obliged to point out, that this forum is open to anyone with an interest in dairy cows.
All members are free to start any cow related topic they wish,(or even non cow related, for that matter!).
We can all find topics on this forum that hold little interest for us. Non are compulsory!!!!!
This is not an index forum, a show cow forum, a type forum or even a milk producer forum. It is a vehicle for debate and discussion on a whole range of topics concerning our dear old cows and their produce.
If you are not inspired by this forum, then start a thread that does inspire you!!
CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY!!!!!!
Perhaps I'm coming over all defensively, but I just feel that a certain Mr Day, has created something of which he can be incredibly proud.
Through his time, effort and careful management we are able to utilise this wonderful medium, for our own enjoyment and education.
To suggest that you have seen it all before, or that large parts of it bore you, is verging on the inpolite!!!
Your contributions will help make the content, even more diverse and interesting. Please don't belittle our current members or their interests!!
Inspire the silent majority rather than knock the active.
P.S. Ron, I think I'm a category 5!! (And it's not just non pedigree breeders that are busy- hence late night posting!!!)
P.P.S.THANK-YOU VERY MUCH, MR MARK DAY!!!!!!!
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7/4/2004, 0:17
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Re: Previous poll results
Simon - Well done, AGAIN. You certainly have a nack for saying the right things at the right time. I also would like to thank Mark for his effort, and have to say I'm glad the shout box is gone, and wish more would vote on his polls.
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7/4/2004, 0:35
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FiringOnAllFour
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Re: Previous poll results
I join the chorus of praise for Mark's inspiration, hard work and the wonderful forum.
Simon
I am very pleased to be a part of this forum. It certainly is not my wish that the forum would be purely commercial - merely that there could be at least some debate on the commercial significance of e.g. holstein breeding topics - something surely most of us have a vested interest in.
You are correct that I wish to raise the profile of the 'less-fanciers' lobby, and I do not wish to stifle the opinions of the fanciers in the process.
There is room for us all - and it is my perogative to take or leave some of the topics that I find disinteresting. This is no insult to those topics or their contributors. Rather, it is a reflection of my relative inability to appreciate their topic!
Please don't be defensive Simon. I come in peace.
My new approach will be one of greater moderation, subtlety, and inoffensiveness.
PS I may also change my username to John Major. Very nice man. My mother loves him.
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7/4/2004, 9:33
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simon powell
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Re: Previous poll results
Cheers FOA4,
There is no need to be a moderate. This forum thrives on radicals.
My point really was, if something doesn't suit you, then go ahead and influence threads that do. The forum is only as diverse and interesting as the members who contribute. I am aware of many who follow the threads but NEVER post!!!
You may be busy and under pressure, but aren't we all?
This forum needs you!!
Fire away!!
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7/4/2004, 9:48
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mmt95
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Re: Previous poll results
In regard to the current pole, "milk will follow type". It is certainly not automatic. You have to intellgently breed for the milk.
On the other hand trying to get type in a poor type heavy milking cow is a difficult thing to do. Most of the time, there too many things to fix to get it all done in one generation.
I do know of one bull that was pretty good at making a silk purse out of a sow's ear, but he is no longer in AI.
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7/4/2004, 14:59
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