PEOVEREYE
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I was going to post this myself today , I am going. I getting clueless as what to do next my milk buyer has numerous excuses so i will have to see if i can influence beyond my farm gate.
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9/8/2006, 15:34
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FFA have joined forces with the ultimate lethal weapon - the WI on a 'save the dairy farmer' campaign. Watch out Tony Blair, you've crossed swords with the WI before! So... go to www.womens-institute.org.uk it's in their campaigns section. Sign their petition and send in a postcard, order postcards (they come in 10's) and give them to all your friends, neighbours, kids' friends parents, suppliers and innundate 10 Downing St with postcards and 6p's. Email the link to all of your contacts. There is a consumer awareness day on 24th August. contact your local WI and see how you can help.
We must get the consumer on board (hence my post about farm walks on which there is a deathly silence!)
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9/8/2006, 17:03
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PEOVEREYE
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FFA Meeting 10/08/06 Market Drayton
Was anybody else there?
I was disappointed seemed to be concluded at a point where the problems had been established and your usual 3 different farmers had ranted 1 saying were all doomed what are we doing there 1 saying join the coops its a cure all and 1 saying direct selling pays too well to give it up ( do they go to every meeting).
Afterwards there was a bit more one to one debate with a few conclusions . It appears that the supermarkets are a little bemused at the moment at the desperate lengths they are all going to to sell milk without actually much pressure ,with each one having to follow the other down .
Now put previous gievances to history on vesting day milk marque and anything else. Given the efforts that some individuals are prepared to make what do people think of the FMP idea that was rolled out in 2001 and quashed mainly by foot and mouth .
That was where as producers we offer a letter of intent to quit milk contract this is held by a central group who once an agreed percent is reached they are handed in and our milk negotiated for us . This group would require and there are people there who can run it .
I believe we need to be more fluid in our movement of contracts so that we are searching out the best deal rather than supplying cheap milk. As to why it could achieve momentum now more than in 2001 is that i think back then there were alot left in the industry who were only a few years off giving up but now there will be a higher proportion who see a longer future .
I know the people who want to get this rolling and they are passionate about it what do you all think.
Joulesh , the same people have got involved in the Wi thing so it will be well covered from our end of the world.
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10/8/2006, 23:11
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Re: FFA Meeting 10/08/06 Market Drayton
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That was where as producers we offer a letter of intent to quit milk contract this is held by a central group who once an agreed percent is reached they are handed in and our milk negotiated for us . This group would require and there are people there who can run it .
My personal view is that this would be a seriously BAD idea. It is effectively setting up a new major co-op, and if that were to be the aim it would be better targeting the strengthening of the existing co-ops.
Much of the problem today is caused because there are too many processing companies trying to gain market share by undercutting each other. The supermarkets aren't going to suddenly pay more for milk from a FFA based co-op than anyone else, and that new business will then have to undercut others to sell it's milk.
We need to lose at least one of the major processors, and quite possibly one of the co-ops as well.
One way of doing this would be to support the existing co-ops. It would mean taking an initial cut for many direct suppliers, but that should be a price worth paying if we can get some control of the market back. Can't see that happening, if the 2 camps are still as far apart as they are in the current situation there's little going to change them.
The other option is to carry on taking the extra money from the direct's, keep the industry fragmented, and wait for the price to be driven so low that enough quit to increase demand. And hope you're one of the survivors.
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11/8/2006, 8:38
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PEOVEREYE
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There is one thing we agree on Big Bird , the milk price is worthy of a comment . Does noone else have an opinion on the way to drive milk prices up ? i am surely not on my own to think this cant go on , check out potters website about invoicing the processors for the lost margin.
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5/9/2006, 20:23
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I had a enough of the dairy industy. The cows are gone and the incalf heifers are being sold.
My dad wrote letters to both the select comittee inquiries about milk pricing. It didn't make much difference though.
I wrote this back in 1998
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7/9/2006, 0:17
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PEOVEREYE
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It is almost an insult in its inaccuracy just shows how much he really understands but then how would you ever sway him now and at the end of the day would he bother to get involved if he did really understand.
I had a simialar reply to a letter my MP sent about TB , i had been inaccurate as to how many reactors i said i had had, i said 2 more than i had so he said the situation wasnt as bad as i thought anyway he also pointed out that i had been very privileged to have the DEFRA Cheshire TB vet mobile number and had rung him on it !!!!!! his fault he rung me on it and i saved his number i now got his office line too.
A desperate group of us had a meeting with NFU at the dairy event to throw in some of our ideas and get a grasp of this "invoicing the buyer "idea .
What does anybody think of it?
I know it ia an awareness thing and the aim is publicity but at the end of the day our contracts sign over our right to picking the milk price so there not going to take it seriously and according to our rep, BOCM like others constantly recieve bogus invoices that dont have to be audited and are just binned.
Also if it works and gets a knee jerk reaction and 2ppl back all well and good but this time next year we could have perfect weather world peace oil at record lows what will the dairies do then argue the reverse of now and cut the price , it is a bad precedent to set .
I hear Wisemans are returning us .3ppl based on cream price which is good but the bulk of the cuts have been due to price wars how do we stimulate the price war back up ? I also hear ARla are cutting it .3ppl or is that a smoke screen so they can leave it where it is and claim they given the farmers something in not dropping it.
Multiple opinions appreciated on this the most important topic on cowtalk, to me at least.
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