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errolston
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Milk price
The recent drop in the milk price by Arla is extremely disappointing. I cannot believe that those lapdogs in the arla milk partnership lamely came out and said they were happy with the milk price! What are Jonathon Ovens and Wesley Abbey playing at?
Milk link have dropped their price as well and so it will no doubt continue.
Arla have become tight with Asda (owned by Wal-mart) so we can expect that the price has been beaten down by Asda as they are starting to lose market share.
As I understand it there are no real reasons for the price to be heading south at the moment. As usual we are having the pickle taken out of us by rest of the supply chain.
If you compare the milk supply to the structure of brewing where the brewers own, or did own, lots of pubs, thereby controlling the price it would seem to me the only hope of ever improving the milk price is to totally change the way milk gets to the consumer.
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10/6/2005, 20:44
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Re: Milk price
I put a rocket up one of the milk-link council members, and although there is going to be a price cut part of it is a re-structure of the composition payments.
The really ridiculous thing about it is that Milklink brought in an A and B quota system to reduce the spring peak. This has been so effective that they haven't had enough milk to run the processing efficiently, so have had to claw back some monies lost. 
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10/6/2005, 22:35
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friar
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Re: Milk price
What remuneration do Jonathon Ovens and Wesley Abbey get for being chairman & vc arla milk partnership? I think Ovens makes his money from sources other than milking cows.
With the drop in output I should think less milk than expected has gone into westbury this spring.
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10/6/2005, 22:57
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Re: Milk price
I suppose the French would think nothing of this, but to me its pretty hair-raising stuff. There is an awful lot at stake now...
The one problem with taking a stand is, it is very hard to back down without losing your credibility or bargaining strength for good. But I suppose things had to come to this crunch eventually.
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24/6/2005, 17:00
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Re: Milk price
I know of 2 Arla suppliers in the north of England that give Arla abit of stick in the press
1 had his contract cancelled the other got a strongly worded letter off Owens!!!
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24/6/2005, 18:25
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FiringOnAllFour
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Re: Milk price
Yea. I think action is a good thing. It sure beats stalemate.
Although our supply chain isn't very good at earning for us, it does find a market for our milk and therefore we can't do without it. So I hope that those taking action have thought through the consequences before moving - as we need to be careful not to damage the system further. We don't want them looking hard at alternative milk supplies and losing milk sales etc.
As much negative publicity as possible makes them sit up and listen.
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25/6/2005, 11:36
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Will Richardson
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Re: Milk price
Our Semex rep was in Canada in April and they were getting about 32p/litre for milk ... that is 77% more than what I'm currently getting. On my quota that would give me an extra 117k in the bank !!!
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26/6/2005, 20:44
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PEOVEREYE
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Re: Milk price
The letter came yesterday to tell us they got the supply profile wrong and they were cutting the bonus from 1.2ppl tp 0.3ppl this is after giving us over 12 months notice in which i and a good many others changed calving pattern , tipped milk away and generally put effort of time and money in to creating our own supply profile that would achieve bonus every day of the year which would of been worth 1.2ppl over 1.3 million litres . Then tonight our farmer rep rang up to say 0.25ppl coming off tomorrow . So in 2 days i lost a bloody fortune out of the cash flow with chance of another cut for August meanwhile everything diesel , fertilizer etc i as dear as i ever known . So i joined FFA tonight and accepted that i going to have to get out and protest as talking to them wont lift the price. 
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29/6/2005, 23:29
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friar
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Re: Milk price
From Ian Potter
Farmers close Co-ops processing plant (28 July)
"Around 25 dairy farmers with tractors and trailers blocked all entrances to Dairy Farmers of Britain's (DFOB) processing plant a Fole, Uttoxeter for 3 hours on Wednesday (27th) costing the co-op and its members an estimated £30,000.
Initially it was billed as a protest by co-op members but on analysis of those present, few were members of DFOB and many were suppliers of Arla. This has infuriated the co-ops members in view of the cost to them and the fact that the blockade had a negative impact.
This is the first time a co-op has been targeted by dairy farmers and DFOB members at Nantwich show understood why some co-op suppliers were angry at the recent price drop, and wanted to protest but felt closing down the factory was a step too far. One felt Arla Milk Partnership Members being involved was taking the mickey"
From FFA
"Although demand is outstripping supplies, still we are suffering price cuts. Therefore we are now contemplating a national milk dumping campaign, staggering it throughout the country on a daily basis, for maximum effect. This will take planning, co-operation and guts, but if we all stick together on this, we will get the result and price for our product that we deserve"
If COOP members dump milk, we will firstly obviously not be paid for the litres we dump & secondly, if it means the COOP can't make their contracted deliveries to the dairies they will get fined by the dairy as well.
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28/7/2005, 22:32
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Re: Milk price
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If COOP members dump milk, we will firstly obviously not be paid for the litres we dump & secondly, if it means the COOP can't make their contracted deliveries to the dairies they will get fined as well.
Who's words are these?
I'm a Milklink member, and yep, I'm none too happy with the milk price, but actually setting out to disrupt what is effectively a business I have a share in?  Can't see that improving my milk price.
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28/7/2005, 22:40
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friar
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Re: Milk price
FFA Press Release
"1.8.05 - MILK MOVEMENTS TO BE CURTAILED AS MILK PRICE PROTEST HOTS UP. On Thursday 4 August 2005 all movement of milk transport vehicles will be stopped for 6 hours. Following this, if both processors and retailers do not address the current milk price crisis, it will be the intention to double the stoppage time the following week."
What percentage of dairy farmers will support this? What time of the day will it be done?
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1/8/2005, 15:31
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friar
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Re: Milk price
ANIMAL RIGHTS CAMPAIGNERS BACK FARMERS' DAIRY BLOCKADES
Animal Aid, the UK's largest animal rights organisation, is backing plans by Farmers for Action (FFA) to blockade the country's main milk processing sites.
In protest at what dairy farmers regard as unfair payment from the five main dairy processors, FFA, the group behind the petrol station protests of 2000 which caused chaos up and down the UK, is currently organising pickets outside the processing plants. The group is now threatening to step up its tactics by completely cutting off the nation's milk supply.
Animal Aid welcomes the FFA action, seeing a dairy drought as an opportunity for the nation to sample healthy, cruelty-free alternatives to cow's milk such as soya, rice and oat milks instead.
In order to yield the vast quantities of milk demanded by the modern industry, dairy cows are subjected to a constant cycle of pregnancies. Male calves, the unwanted 'by-products' of dairy farming, are taken from their mothers at just a few days old and destroyed, so that the milk meant for them can be bottled for human consumption. 'Prime' female calves are sent off to join the production line where they will be milked to the point of exhaustion and killed at around three years of age. Lameness is endemic on dairy farms and mastitis, a painful infection of the udders, runs rife. Mixed into that bottle of 'white stuff' is likely to be a ****tail of pus and blood cells from infected udders and antibiotics used to keep the cows 'healthy'.
It is not only animals who suffer: dairy products are now known to be a major allergen and can cause a range of symptoms such as stomach cramps, migraine and excessive mucous production, as well as contributing to much more serious diseases including kidney stones, childhood diabetes and breast cancer. Millions of people around the world recognise they are 'lactose intolerant' and avoid all dairy products for health reasons.
Said Animal Aid Director, Andrew Tyler:
"This time we're rooting for the farmers. We would be delighted if the blockade goes ahead. Cutting off the supply of a product that causes pain to both humans and animals can only be a good thing."
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Notes to Editors
For more information contact Andrew Tyler or Claudia Tarry on 01732 364546.
We have an ISDN line for broadcast-quality interviews.
For background information on the dairy industry see the suffering of farmed cattle and our milk e-leaflet
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2/8/2005, 10:43
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jonnykelso
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Re: Milk price
Losers! I think theyve got too much time on their hands. How many of them actually have been to a farm before? Its not in our best interests to mistreat cows-happier cows = better performance!Id love to show some of those guys around our farm (mitent b tidy but theyl see wat realy goes on & wat the animals mean to us!!!)
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2/8/2005, 19:08
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PEOVEREYE
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Re: Milk price
Anybody been involved or know how the protests have gone today ? the obvious websites seem void of information .
My milk has been picked up but if there is a knock on effect that some farmers dont get there milk picked up who stands the cost , could get tricky.
Summer, with school holidays and harvest to me is not going to help FFA get massive support and i think they need it . I could of tried harder to find out i suppose but none of my usual contacts knew what to do or where to go today i was throwing them dam wet tyres around anyway , again.
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4/8/2005, 18:44
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FiringOnAllFour
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Re: Milk price
The last two milk auctions of United Dairy farmers were 19.39p and 18.76p respectively.
This represents a drop of about 2p below the same months last year.
If the trend continues into the spring we are looking at a farmgate price of around 13.5p, provided our buyer doesn't continue to subsidise the spring price from the winter price.
I don't know of many that will stick around for much of that?
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6/12/2005, 14:22
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errolston
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They complainabout rising input costs due to the price of oil etc, but for christ sake we have the same cost increases! I agree it ridiculous. The problem is that we are the small guy in the food chain and we just get shafted as and when these companies please.
On a slightly related topic we heard that David Handley did not put his own milk down the drain before Christmas when he tried to co-ordinate the 3 days of non-supply. If that is the case this guy should remove himself from the negotiating table as I for one think that if the story is true then he is an arsehole and he cannot possibly have any credibility.
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31/1/2006, 14:54
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I don't know where mr Handley is sending his milk now, as he has left First Milk.
I think being the self appointed chairman of FFA pays rather better than producing milk!!!!
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31/1/2006, 15:42
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Re: Milk price
Mark,
What will your base milk price be after the .9 deduction, and what constitutes base milk?
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31/1/2006, 17:06
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PEOVEREYE
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Wisemans confirmed they holding there price for february which i think will put 1.4 ppl between them and arla so only a matter of time before we get screwed also.
Our base for 4% and 3.3% with bonuses and 3000litres plus a day collection is 19.93 ppl
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31/1/2006, 23:41
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Huffy
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Re: Milk price
Heard last night that Arla were going to drop the price .8 then .3 then in april put it back up .6? Does that make any sense to any of you out there??
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2/2/2006, 22:44
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FiringOnAllFour
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Re: Milk price
To discourage their suppliers from flooding them with extra litres in Feb/Mar, considering a no levy situation?
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3/2/2006, 10:49
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Re: Milk price
But aren't we supposed to be short of milk.
Just a thought but how much (or little) would they pay if there was a glut
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4/2/2006, 9:32
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