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Re: Milk price
Northern Ireland puts roughly 50% of its milk into powder, and with the export refunds due to go, then so does that milk, in my view.
It would be nice to think that we could transfer some of it to shelf products, but we aren't nearly good enough at those yet. It isn't easy being a new company in the dairy sector.
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4/2/2006, 10:30
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Milk price
JB, I agree with you up to a point. However the disorganized manner in which the protest was co-ordinated caused a lot of disharmony and ill-feeling in our area between people that are good friends. If Handley didn't dispose of his milk (and I have it on pretty good authority that he did not) then he has caused a lot of problems for nothing because the whole thing was a waste of time. For good measure we put a couple of days worth down the drain and that is money we can ill afford to lose. I don't suppose he is going to offer his income from running the FFA to such producers as compensation.
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8/2/2006, 19:30
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Wisemans cut the price 0.65ppl as of today B******ds i nnot sure how we can reverse the trend we must just count ourselves lucky that production figures are so low .
Having said that i not sure where in the budget we are supposed to make savings we are down to the bone now.
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1/3/2006, 10:38
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Re: Milk price
Unfortunately, the ultimate sacrifice seems to be the only one that will work at the moment - sorry, but we can't do it for that price - we're out.
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1/3/2006, 12:00
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Re: Milk price
Who, me personally?
no.
But what else is going to put a bottom in the market?
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1/3/2006, 13:47
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so far 1 in 10 farmers have left the dairy industry in the last 10 years.I heard that complete dispersals this year are gonna be thick and fast!
milk production is down but milk price has not come back up to match as we are still below the 20 year average price.Dairy females are quite expensive probably because so many young stock have been exported(and still are).water here is an enormous issue and will probably govern future expansion.
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1/3/2006, 19:18
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so far 1 in 10 farmers have left the dairy industry in the last 10 years.I heard that complete dispersals this year are gonna be thick and fast!
milk production is down but milk price has not come back up to match as we are still below the 20 year average price.Dairy females are quite expensive probably because so many young stock have been exported(and still are).water here is an enormous issue and will probably govern future expansion.
My word. That sounds remarkably like what we would be saying.
The number left the industry in the last ten years is a lot more than ten percent (anyone know the UK figure?), but same principle. Lots of dispersals (an annual circumstance here anyway), and dairy stock are flying trade (possibly due in part to the end of the OTMS), despite a declining milk price. Our new quotas are nitrate and phosphate regulations, which will make expansion enormously expensive.
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2/3/2006, 9:51
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When we moved on to this estate in 99 there were 15 of us milking now there is 5 and i would say that typical round here.
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2/3/2006, 10:17
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Check out Ian Potters daily news update.
Arla possibly looking at a large cut in milk price, the rest probably to follow.
That could really put the cat amongst the pigeons.
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26/5/2006, 19:09
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despite things being tough at the coalface our friends sold their little 100 cow dairy within 2 weeks of listing.
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26/5/2006, 22:14
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reduction in fat from 1.5p per % over 3.7 to 0.05p?
mind if I ask if you actually mean half a penny, or have they completely written off fat?
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1/6/2006, 19:35
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He means 0.5p. Still not happy news. All through over recruiting and lack of communication.
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1/6/2006, 23:12
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From the FFA website:
1.6.06 - ARLA MILK PRICE CUT - Unbelievable was the comment made by Andrew Hemmings, Vice chairman of FFA on the recent price cut made by Arla. He also said the time has come to draw a line in the sand, it is now up to every dairy producer in the land to get out and vent their anger and frustration on a company who obviously do not care about the livelihoods of their own producers. FFA Chairman, David Handley said this is an intolerable situation, it is pretty obvious that Sir David Naish has had his dream come true in that he has wrenched the single farm payment out of UK producers' hands. The implication of this cut is so severe, Handley said milk prices will come tumbling down like a deck of cards. In the last 24 hours he has had conversations with leading processors and retailers who cannot believe the size of this cut. Especially as one stated, this company has been actively recruiting new members, yet is basing part of its cut on overproduction. He also said no single organisation can now sort this out, dairy farmers as a whole will need to come together to put a stop to the landslide that could happen with the UK milk market. FFA will be contacting all their members over the next few days with regard to direct action to highlight this serious issue. David Handley said 'in the recent past members have been reluctant to protest, in fact some have gone as far as to say it achieves nothing. The FFA have listened to that comment and over the past 3/4 months have sat back in respect of direct action but have been very, very busy with other organisations launching campaigns that will hopefully bring better prices back to producers, but enough is enough. We will be out in the coming weeks and for all those out there who are vocal in respect of no action, Handley says it is time to put your money where your mouth is, get out on the picket line and leave your ego at home. In the year 2000 FFA were told protest will not get a better milk price but over a period of weeks FFA proved how easy it was to get 2ppl put onto the milk price through peaceful protest. We look forward to seeing you all in the coming weeks, no excuses please.
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5/6/2006, 21:57
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Re: Milk price
Be fair now all the PLCs are only concerned with their own well being as suppliers we are third in line after shareholders and customers. In any case the price cut is due to AFMP taking on the cost of balancing milk supplies over the year, in the meantime the company recruited heavily in order to ensure that their demand peak, which unfortunatly coincides with supply trough, was covered.
The worst of this is the way it has beeen sprung upon us with no chance to take avoiding action by tweaking calving pattern say.
Still I know of one recent recruit who is calm about it as "It's still more than I was getting before."
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6/6/2006, 23:24
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Milk price
Arla UK is a plc the Swedes and Danes own 51% of it otherwise it's run by suits the same as any other plc.
As to the board of AFMP they appear to be cut out of any information loop apart from Messers Ovens and Abbot.
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7/6/2006, 22:37
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Re: Milk price
The July auction of United Dairy Farmers resulted in an average price of 17.73 ppl - over three ppl less than the same month last year. This applies to milk sold in the three months, Aug, Sept, Oct (traditionally our highest paid months incl. November).
This is the crunch coming now, as is dictated by the market. The outlook until 2009 is pretty bleak, of that we can be confident.
Do you see any change occuring in UK milk production by the end of this period?
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11/7/2006, 23:20
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I agree this is probably the crunch for United members. I'm guessing that the milk price is now low enough to have an impact on production.
Time will tell.
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12/7/2006, 7:58
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I am not taking a jab at you people, but do you ever wish you could turn back the clock to say 1994?
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25/7/2006, 16:49
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Re: Milk price
According to IPAquotas website,Tesco(others to follow) announced a 1.75p increase with 1.3p to go to processors and the farmers.
Anybody gonna take a guess at what we will get?
At least the full 1p?
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7/3/2007, 20:19
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Re: Milk price
I say .6
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7/3/2007, 23:49
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Re: Milk price
I think its time producers no matter who they supply demand at least 1p if we are weak about this the processors will walk all over us and eventually claw back all that they give us, we must all send out a clear message to our representatives if other supermarkets follow Tesco's lead that to save the industry we need more than 1p to cover our increased costs!!!
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8/3/2007, 14:17
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Re: Milk price
A penny every 3 months till the end of the year would be more like it...suppose we can dream on....
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8/3/2007, 18:52
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Milk price
A little bird has told me Wisemans are announcing some increase i not getting too hopeful but a half decent source.
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8/3/2007, 22:06
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