mootoyou
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Backflush Systems
Has anyone got any experience with backwash systems?
We're looking at investing in one, but would love to hear anyones thoughts or experiences with them.
Every time the unit comes off, it gets flushed with a mild detergent that kills any bugs, hence helping to lower cell counts and keep mastitis to a minimum.
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4/3/2007, 23:00
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amlkman
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its junk, problems, problems, problems, Better off investing in good cow prep. pre dip, clean dry cows. Culture all your fresh cows, cull or milk last any that are Pos.
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7/3/2007, 3:13
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amlkman
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The PBI Ross Holm that I've seen never worked right. It was a good idea but one more thing to go wrong. You never see any new dairy's installing them. Like I said if your good at cow prep and culture your herd, you will be just as well off without the repaires. J B is there any reserch that suports that back flush is better then good cow prep and culturing cows?? What did that system cost you? And how much do you spend on repairs? And by how much do you figure it helps you eliminate clinical mastitis? If it was all that great and there was enough resurch to suport it. It would be permoted for future use not a thing of the past.
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8/3/2007, 2:09
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noname25
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Re: Backflush Systems
craigalea we have someone near us who milks 400 cows and the dont prep dont strip only dip at end and thet have a cell count around 150 most times - pretty impressive. they say they find mastitus when they come to dip and the cow is heavy etc.. saves so much time.
Loford Holsteins
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13/3/2007, 12:24
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Re: Backflush Systems
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SpringleazeHolsteins wrote:
Non prep routines are just laziness, and nothing to be proud of.
That's a big statement. If it works for them why knock it ?
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13/3/2007, 15:06
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There are several repercussions of not spotting mastitis until you find a quarter not milked out and a stringy clot hanging from the teat end; you`re playing roulette with your bonuses, she`s going to be a lot harder to clear up with antibiotics, the increased risk of cross infection, and of course there is a welfare issue here.
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13/3/2007, 15:48
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Re: Backflush Systems
I agree with you I strip every cow before attatching the cups. That doesn't mean I'm right and the other man is wrong if it works for them who are we to pass judgement. As for lazy 400 cows is no doddle. IMHO
DD
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13/3/2007, 19:04
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We pretty much do the same as you atho I think I did just read lately that we are actualy supposed to wash and strip etc before cups go on according to foodsafe australia or some such body
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14/3/2007, 6:07
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noname25
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Re: Backflush Systems
Yeah def each to their own. I can see both points of view though. My dad is one of those who would never dream of not prepping the cow and if i said but i have too many he'd say well get down to the number you can manage then! haha. Less seems to be more for alot of people though as Charryman said maybe less playing with the teat is better for the cow..We all doing what works for us.
Loford Holsteins
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14/3/2007, 20:36
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So when the dairy inspector turns up and asks what your milking routine is, you tell porky pies?
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15/3/2007, 8:38
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Re: Backflush Systems
Our preparation routine is a wipe with a dry paper towel to get the milk coming, and rub off the sawdust.
At that stage, its fairly easy if you know your cows to see one with mastitis. You can just feel something not right when you're rubbing the bag, or when she walks in just not looking quite right, with the bag not filled right. Then you've got another chance when you see what she puts in the jar. Then we have another chance when post dipping. A blind man could see it then.
I think its only necessary if you've got an inattentive employee who needs mastitis to jump up and slap him in the face before he sees it.
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22/3/2007, 12:13
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FiringOnAllFour
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Re: Backflush Systems
They do. We also have a herringbone.
The robots have a backflush if you call it that, with plain water.
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22/3/2007, 14:40
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