foxleigh
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Ketocol
we use something that is pink and called ketol.
think you start with 500ml and then reduce to 125ml over a few days.actually giving a cow dextrose under the skin can work just as well in giving an energy lift
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23/4/2008, 21:11
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foxleigh
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used to get all excited and give a cow after calving big bucket of warm water with a kg of dissolved brown sugar to drink.......
supposed to give the cow energy and prevent DAs by filling gut.
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24/4/2008, 12:40
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foxleigh
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I think some people here add sugar to their drycow mix, others use ionic salts in molasses plus addlib straw
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25/4/2008, 7:02
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We routinely give all the cows abit of a concoction immediately following calving.
They all get as much luke warm water as they can drink, with 1lb of sugar and a tsp yeast, although no data, or research to prove it works, we have found the cows are coming in, getting to their milk quickly without problems, and eating food like it was going out of fashion.
The yeast and the sugar will continue, as we've seen no reason to stop, if it works why change?
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25/4/2008, 9:14
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ExpectingRain
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No reason at all! We already offer warm water post calving, some cows will accept it with PG added, some refuse it, hence the interest in Ketocol. We already include yeast in the transition diet. In theory, Ketocol/PG should give a far more sustained lift in blood sugar levels than sugar alone. Leeders have some very impressive trial work for Ketocol but that obviously does not always mean anything in the real world. In the past we tried a full DCAB diet using a product from Frank Wright, but the cows found it so unpalatable that they managed to sort it out in the trough, however well we mixed it. We currently feed 100g Mag Chloride in transition period, but as I said before, there is still room for improvement. I suspect that if we did an analysiss we would find very high levels of potassium in the grass silage part of the ration, and I think that is the root of the problem (hence the interest in straw based Keenan system).
--- Crosshutton Holsteins
70 Homebred cows Annual Average 9100 4.2. 3.3
31VG 24GP 9G 2F 1P 5NC
No genomics but plenty of inbreeding
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26/4/2008, 4:09
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