JAP1
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Hello Cowtalkers
Hi my name is John, i live in N Ireland, I milk 120 pedigree Holsteins under the prefix of Ballyginniff. I have two teenage sons who are both interested in breeding and showing. Together we spend a lot of time browsing the net and going to shows and sales throughout the UK and Ireland, to feed our interest in top quality genetics.
I have been a closet cowtalker for a while, but now i feel it's time to 'come out'
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27/5/2007, 16:24
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Posal
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Welcome John
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27/5/2007, 18:07
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Mayjay
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Re: …
I know some other closeteers that need a prod to come out. Myself, I was a snoop for about a year or so before I came out. We all enjoy cows and the crap that goes with them. I joined pretty much for the entertainment value, sometimes it's too quiet on here, slip up and you may hear about it, but not from me. By the way, what's with Bally over there? Another one is Bonnie in the prefix. Are they like hills and valleys?
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28/5/2007, 4:27
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mmt95
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Re: Hello Cowtalkers
Wellcome to Cowtalk, John. I have found it interesting and entertaining. And also that people who work with cows are pretty much alike the world over, and face the same problems and pleasures that come from working with dairy cows.
My previous knowledge of life in the UK came by way of Monty Python and Benny Hill.
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28/5/2007, 7:24
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errolston
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Hello Cowtalkers
MMT95, using Python and Benny Hill to learn about the UK did you not have an overwhelming urge to come visit the country!!
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28/5/2007, 9:30
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mootoyou
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Hello Cowtalkers
I always understood Bally to mean "home of"
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28/5/2007, 11:18
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PolledHolsteinbreeder
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Re: Hello Cowtalkers
quote: errolston wrote:
MMT95, using Python and Benny Hill to learn about the UK did you not have an overwhelming urge to come visit the country!!
Errolston- MMT95 is a Yank they don't get irony!
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28/5/2007, 13:27
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PolledHolsteinbreeder
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Re: Hello Cowtalkers
Hi John,welcome
What " Booty " have you taken home from your regular visits to sales in England/Scotland/Wales ?
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28/5/2007, 13:31
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JAP1
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Hello Cowtalkers
Mayjay about 20 years ago we had some people arrive at our farm from Australia they said their name was 'Ginniff' and they were looking for their ancestors. Unfortunately I couldn't help them. Ballyginniff is the townland i.e. local area where we live.
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28/5/2007, 13:37
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JAP1
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Hello Cowtalkers
hi Polledholsteinbreeder, I got an allen x rudolph x Glendrummond Shower from Bilsrow, Stormatic le papoose from Sterndale, (86 2yr) just calved again with a gibson heifer calf! Got 2 fancy calves from Overside, a Gibson Elegance and a Shottle from the Jed Amanda both are currently on a flush program, also Jordan Linda maiden from Hayleys dispersal.
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28/5/2007, 14:01
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mmt95
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Hello Cowtalkers
As for learning about the UK from Python and Hill, I was only joking. I thought you’d get it. My older brother was a bomber pilot stationed in England during WW II, and Sir Winston Churchill is my all time favorite political hero. I used to be able to name all the British rulers from Alfred the Great to Queen Elizabeth II, but can’t any more.
My husband’s great gr’father was born in Scotland, and my son has spent time in both England and Scotland. My grandson was in London 2 years ago with a group from his highschool.
Through my son’s research, we disvovered that my husbsnd is the 18th cousin of Queen Elizabeth through John of Gaunt. We jokingly called him Sir Robert. As for being a Yank, I know that is what we over here are called, but I’m a little far South to answer to that, even if we were on side of the North.
Today is Memorial Day in the US, and we have a National Cemetary here in Springfield, where only the military are buried, and services are being held there today. The only one in the US where both soldiers from the North and South are buried in the same cemetary.
Well anyway, Blessed are the Cheese Makers.
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28/5/2007, 21:02
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Re: Hello Cowtalkers
quote: mmt95 wrote:
Well anyway, Blessed are the Cheese Makers.
For they shall inherit the overdraft?
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28/5/2007, 21:10
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PolledHolsteinbreeder
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Re: Hello Cowtalkers
Hi mmt95
Sorry for " Yanking" you,hadn't entirely thought that one through.
Have to agree with you on Winston Churchill. His charactor faults would prevent him attaining high office these days I fear.
You shame me on knowledge of kings/ Queens-I never knew them.
But it can now be said : Cowtalk , by Royal appointment.
I'm sure Mark we be applying for the warrant soon.
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30/5/2007, 0:43
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mmt95
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Hello Cowtalkers
Here's the list of Rulers, I had forgotten a great many of them.
Died
Year
Year at Years
Name Began
Died Age Reigned
England
Saxons and Danes
Egbert . . . . King of Wessex, won allegiance of all English 829 839
-- 10
Ethelwulf . . . Son, King of Wessex, Sussex, Kent, Essex 839 858
-- 19
Ethelbald . . . Son of Ethelwulf, displaced father in Wessex 858 860
-- 2
Ethelbert . . . 2d son of Ethelwulf, united Kent and Wessex 860 866
-- 6
Ethelred I . . 3d son, King of Wessex, fought Danes 866 871
-- 5
Alfred . . . . The Great, 4th son, defeated Danes, fortified
London 871 899
52 28
Edward . . . . The Elder, Alfred's son, united English, claimed
Scotland 899 924
55 25
Athelstan . . . The Glorious, Edward's son, King of Mercia,
Wessex 924 940
45 16
Edmund I . . . 3d son of Edward, King of Wessex, Mercia 940 946
25 6
Edred . . . . . 4th son of Edward 946 955
32 9
Edwy . . . . . The Fair, eldest son of Edmund, King of Wessex 955 959
18 3
Edgar . . . . . The Peaceful, 2d son of Edmund, ruled all
English 959 975
32 17
Edward . . . . The Martyr, eldest son of Edgar, murdered by
stepmother 975 978
17 4
Ethelred II . . The Unready, 2d son of Edgar, married Emma of
Normandy 978 1016
48 37
Edmund II . . . Ironside, son of Ethelred II, King of London 1016 1016
27 0
Canute . . . . The Dane, gave Wessex to Edmund, married Emma 1016 1035
40 19
Harold I . . . Harefoot, natural son of Canute 1035 1040
-- 5
Hardecanute . . Son of Canute by Emma, Danish King 1040 1042
24 2
Edward . . . . The Confessor, son of Ethelred II
(Canonized 1161) 1042 1066
62 24
Harold II . . . Edward's brother-in-law, last Saxon King 1066 1066
44 0
House of Normandy
William I . . . The Conqueror, defeated Harold at Hastings 1066 1087
60 21
William II . . Rufus, 3d son of William I, killed by arrow 1087 1100
43 13
Henry I . . . . Beauclerc, youngest son of William I 1100 1135
67 35
House of Blois
Stephen . . . . Son of Adela, daughter of William I, and Count
of Blois 1135 1154
50 19
House of Plantagenet
Henry II . . . Son of Geoffrey Plantagenet (Angevin) by
Matilda, dau. of Henry I 1154 1189
56 35
Richard I . . . Coeur de Lion, son of Henry II, crusader 1189 1199
42 10
John . . . . . Lackland, son of Henry II, signed Magna Carta,
1215 1199 1216
50 17
Henry III . . . Son of John, acceded at 9, under regency until
1227 1216 1272
65 56
Edward I . . . Longshanks, son of Henry III 1272 1307
68 35
Edward II . . . Son of Edward I, deposed by Parliament, 1327 1307 1327
43 20
Edward III . . Of Windsor, son of Edward II 1327 1377
65 50
Richard II . . Grandson of Edw. III, minor until 1389,
deposed 1399 1377 1400
34 22
House of Lancaster
Henry IV . . . Son of John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, son of
Edw. III 1399 1413
47 13
Henry V . . . . Son of Henry IV, victor of Agincourt 1413 1422
34 9
Henry VI . . . Son of Henry V, deposed 1461, died in Tower 1422 1471
49 39
House of York
Edward IV . . . Great-great-grandson of Edward III, son of Duke
of York 1461 1483
41 22
Edward V . . . Son of Edward IV, murdered in Tower of London 1483 1483
13 0
Richard III . . Crookback, bro. of Edward IV, fell at Bosworth
Field 1483 1485
35 2
House of Tudor
Henry VII . . . Son of Edmund Tudor, Earl of Richmond, whose
father had married the widow of Henry V;
descended from Edward III through his mother,
Margaret Beaufort via John of Gaunt. By
marriage with daughter of Edward IV he united
Lancaster and York 1485 1509
53 24
Henry VIII . . Son of Henry VII by Elizabeth, dau. of
Edward IV. 1509 1547
56 38
Edward VI . . . Son of Henry VIII, by Jane Seymour, his 3d
queen. Ruled under regents. Was forced to name
Lady Jane Grey his successor. Council of State
proclaimed her queen July 10, 1553. Mary Tudor
won Council, was proclaimed queen July 19,
1553. Mary had Lady Jane Grey beheaded for
treason, Feb., 1554 1547 1553
16 6
Mary I . . . . Daughter of Henry VIII, by Catherine of Aragon 1553 1558
43 5
Elizabeth I . . Daughter of Henry VIII, by Anne Boleyn 1558 1603
69 44
Great Britain
House of Stuart
James I . . . . James VI of Scotland, son of Mary,Queen of Scots
First to call himself King of Great Britain.
This became official with the Act of Union,
1707 1603 1625
59 22
Charles I . . . Only surviving son of James I; beheaded
Jan. 30, 1649 1625 1649
48 24
Commonwealth, 1649-1660
Council of State, 1649; Protectorate, 1653
The Cromwells . Oliver Cromwell, Lord Protector 1653 1658
59 --
Richard Cromwell, son, Lord Protector,
resigned May 25, 1659 1658 1712
86 --
House of Stuart (Restored)
Charles II . . Eldest son of Charles I, died without issue 1660 1685
55 25
James II . . . 2d son of Charles I. Deposed 1688. Interregnum
Dec. 11, 1688, to Feb. 13, 1689 1685 1701
68 3
William III . . Son of William, Prince of Orange, by Mary, dau.
of Charles I 1689 1702
51 13
and Mary II Eldest daughter of James II and wife of
William III 1694
33 6
Anne . . . . . 2d daughter of James II 1702 1714
49 12
House of Hanover
George I . . . Son of Elector of Hanover, by Sophia, grand-dau.
of James I 1714 1727
67 13
George II . . . Only son of George I, married Caroline of
Brandenburg 1727 1760
77 33
George III . . Grandson of George II, married Charlotte of
Mecklenburg 1760 1820
81 59
George IV . . . Eldest son of George III, Prince Regent, from
Feb., 1811 1820 1830
67 10
William IV . . 3d son of George III, married Adelaide of Saxe-
Meiningen 1830 1837
71 7
Victoria . . . Dau. of Edward, 4th son of George III; married
(1840) Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha,
who became Prince Consort 1837 1901
81 63
House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha
Edward VII . . Eldest son of Victoria, married Alexandra,
Princess of Denmark 1901 1910
68 9
House of Windsor
Name Adopted July 17, 1917
George V . . . 2d son of Edward VII, married Princess Mary of
Teck 1910 1936
70 25
Edward VIII . . Eldest son of George V; acceded Jan. 20, 1936,
abdicated Dec. 11 1936 1972
77 1
George VI . . . 2d son of George V; married Lady Elizabeth
Bowes-Lyon 1936 1952
56 15
Elizabeth II . Elder daughter of George VI, acceded Feb. 6,
1952 1952 --
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30/5/2007, 15:55
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mmt95
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Hello Cowtalkers
Actually, I didn’t learn that in school, as our English history from school delt more with the American Revolution and that part of history.
My brothers and I loved heraldry and played “knights and armour” along with some neighbor kids. We had cardboard armour and fought with swords. (Shrine ceremonial swords) Mother made us quit that when I got stabbed in the back and had to have stitches.
We happened to have a history book at home listing the English rulers and I memorized the list, I guess to show off to the others. I never ran in to anybody else that could do it, or wanted to. I really showed off when I went to Canada to visit my Canadian cousins. I didn’t memorize the dates just the names.
I got this list from the internet, which is wonderful, because you can know everything without knowing anything.
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30/5/2007, 20:09
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PolledHolsteinbreeder
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Re: Hello Cowtalkers
Very impressive mmt95, your family was obviously very competitive. Oh , and backstabbing Have a karma point.
Just as an extra royal interesting fact, when Charles succeeds to the throne, he won't be King Charles, sounds daft ,but he will( provided he doesn't change the rule to scotch my story) assume a different predetermined name. But I can't remember it, sorry.
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31/5/2007, 0:39
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Mayjay
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Re: Hello Cowtalkers
King Up Chuck perhaps. No offence, I actually can put up with the Royals, as long as you keep them over there.
Poor Jap got forgotten in the mix.
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31/5/2007, 16:35
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Hello Cowtalkers
John, i bet you never expected your ' coming out' to result in such a valuable history lesson!!!
forum hijacked!!!!!!
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31/5/2007, 21:21
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Re: Hello Cowtalkers
I wonder where Edmund The Blackadder fits into that timescale?
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1/6/2007, 11:14
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mmt95
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Hello Cowtalkers
Long before the next one, Milchtoast the Apologetic.
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1/6/2007, 16:34
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