JeffNYRC
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Good match besides Talent for Advent..
I have a heifer bred to Talent, she is an AdventXRedmarkerXIntegrity due about March 1st. Curious what other bulls are a good match for Advent. I am not concerned if it isn't red, or RC.
This heifer is showing promise with her udder, nice high udder, wide, teat placement looks good (ideal). Sure she has a few weeks to go, but I doubt she changed much (quality). What I would like to improve her in would be to add a little slope to her rump, and clean her neck up. She has tons of depth, a lot of rib, and her legs are straight (side/rear)..
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3/2/2008, 4:37
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JTTH
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Re: …
Dundee is a god match on Advent, but I wouden't use him with Redmarker that close. To short neeks. What about Debonair-Red (Talent x Scientific Durham Debutante)
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3/2/2008, 21:47
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ghz
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Good match besides Talent for Advent..
If you dont mind too much of Delliah,-Damion,Duplex,Atlas.
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4/2/2008, 12:52
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Re: …
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Buckeye wrote:
If your springer has a heifer calf, you could name it.
Beech-Hill Talent Tinderbox
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4/2/2008, 14:14
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JeffNYRC
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Re: …
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Big Bird wrote:
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Buckeye wrote:
If your springer has a heifer calf, you could name it.
Beech-Hill Talent Tinderbox
Actually using Damion would yield more inbreeding. That would be something that Buckeye would use (I've seen him reccomend Damion). He has an inbreedin coef of 15.2% per dairybulls.com. Using a bull knowing he has been inbred (linebreeding is the fancy name), isn't wise.. No offense towards ghz..
This heifer I did look back with Redmarker/Integrity and Advent. There is a fair amount of Blackstar. However Talent is a bit further away from being close, take a look for yourself..
However I do remember seeing a chart somewhere, that showed the holstein breed has a ton of blackstar influence. I beleive 60% or so of the bulls have blackstar somewhere.
Now looking back with Damion as well, he has some Starbuck influence, if you dig behind either redmarker or integrity (one of the two), there is some starbuck influence there as well.
Either way, the tinderbox is Damion, and other bulls that are being inbred (linebred). The only bull I liked that has been suggested thus far is that Talent from Scientific Durham Debutante. However, he is too young still. If he can maintain his parental proof, that will be a nice bull for Advents, and others. We'll see..
Jeff
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5/2/2008, 4:28
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foxleigh
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Good match besides Talent for Advent..
well icant decide wether you need dairy or strength so I would look for a bull that goes right down the middle ie.balenced.if your talent calf throws the wrong way its going to be a shocker hence buckeyes comments.of course advent is a kite from a durham so that has 2 of the most popular bloodlines around close up.Id be looking at prominent cow families I liked and then their sons.
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5/2/2008, 20:47
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Will Richardson
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Re: Good match besides Talent for Advent..
Needs a hell of a whack of milk for a start Marmax ???
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5/2/2008, 21:33
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Re: Good match besides Talent for Advent..
We have a few advents and I was asking the classifier this week what he thought crossed the best on them and without hesitation he recomended Fortune. He said it doesnt matter if they are red or not Fortune is the way to go.
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7/2/2008, 14:24
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synergy1
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Good match besides Talent for Advent..
Champion?
Skaprep--If showring type is your goal; Fortune is going to be a dissappoitment.
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7/2/2008, 18:25
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Mayjay
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Re: Good match besides Talent for Advent..
Bless my buttons, I'm shocked.
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9/2/2008, 6:43
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synergy1
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Good match besides Talent for Advent..
I still think that they are going to be great cows but if tall ultra dairy cows are what you like you are going to be dissapppointed.
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9/2/2008, 19:02
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