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Allen to Flush
Got a Allen maiden to flush in 2 weeks, she is backed by 6 gen Ex dams, past 3 all showed to major honours. Any sugestions? need to avoid laurie shiek bulls and storm.
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21/5/2008, 14:55
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have you thought about Advent? The Allen I have seen are pretty powerful with good feet. Advent might work with those traits as well as put on a real nice udder.
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21/5/2008, 16:48
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HHF Mac, Durham, Dundee, I know you need to avoid storm blood but at the same time Goldwyn does fit well with Allen.
Aspen for showcalves
Shottle or Roumare could be interesting.
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21/5/2008, 20:02
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Re: Allen to Flush
I think Affirmed, Lee is very good and then Alicia. I think Titan, Durham out of Tobi. I would gamble a little and get some AltaFinest that is sexed and get the embryo specialist to deep horn breed her and get more heifers.
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22/5/2008, 2:43
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Re: Allen to Flush
Would anyone see a problem with Jasper on this lass?
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27/5/2008, 18:12
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Re: Allen to Flush
deppening on the bulls in her back pedigree and if she looks like our Allens, Jenny lou or Laramee Mor would be interesting
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29/5/2008, 12:32
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Allen to Flush
What about Baxter? or is that to much Emory?
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29/5/2008, 23:58
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Allen to Flush
Jasper, Goldwyn or Shottle
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3/6/2008, 16:19
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Re: Allen to Flush
Pedigree is EX93 2E leduc x EX Storm x Ex 95 3E x 3 more EX dams.
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5/6/2008, 13:52
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Allen to Flush
Lots of strength there, you need a refiner bull Atlas or stormatic maybe?
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5/6/2008, 16:17
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Allen to Flush
Maybe just stretch the rib a bit, otherwise not to much to change on her. She is uphill, walks out fine and sharp enough on the bone. Rump is sight slope and wide as wide can be.
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5/6/2008, 20:19
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Re: Allen to Flush
After looking at the Family Tree information on Holstein USA. Advent would bring up more Chief Mark. The one problem with Advent, when mated to any heifer/cow with a slight slope to her rump, she will have TOO much slope. The two advents I have, prove that. The bull that I was thinking of, based off of the leduc in her backround is Rubens. I saw a rubens out of a leduc, and she is a nice looking 3yr old, scored 84 at 2yr, and id say an easy 86-87 cow at 3.. Rump is fairly flat, legs looked decent.
Rubens do drop good udders, and if backed by good F&L, she should be fine. Pins do need protection. Rubens is older, but one thing I haven't noticed you mention, how is her strength?
Jeff
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6/6/2008, 19:52
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Re: Allen to Flush
What do you call too much slope cos 2inches would be ideal to me ?
Advent/Rubens on a Leduc x Storm are you taking the p*** ? what would work is a bull with breed average or slightly positve for stature,not too angular with plenty of width, low pins, some set in the leg and a decent amount of milk.Oh and a lowish cellcount and better than most for fertility.
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6/6/2008, 23:41
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Buze77
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Allen to Flush
i am not sure what the p*** is, but I am pretty sure i am not taking it. I mentioned advent off the top of my head when the only sire I knew in the pedigree was Allen. Seemed like Mr. Rags2Riches wanted show winners show winners and I've seen some pretty fancy ones....what about To-mar Fortune? I see has been used on a bunch of cows to flush the past 9 months. But I am sure by now you have chosen a bull and may have flushed her already...let us know the results.
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7/6/2008, 15:22
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Re: Allen to Flush
I think you missed the Allen at the start of the pedigree, a bit more angular may benefit. 3 nearest dams all Ex 2nd calvers (max score) so hopin to keep the streak going.
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7/6/2008, 15:23
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Allen to Flush
Pagewire can add the sharp to the allen's more than goldwyn (and however Goldwyn x Allen it isn't very original!)
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18/6/2008, 7:20
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