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Id like to throw our cow in the mix. i just wish i could post a picture
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Id like to throw our cow in the mix. i just wish i could post a picture



The instructions are in the sticky thread under Rules/FAQs/Announcements. if you run into problems I'm sure someone can put up the photo for you!

With your entry and mine when i get the time to dig out the photos and scan them in we will be up onto double figures of nominations. Nice competition. Good idea LRG

20/1/2009, 23:19   
 
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im having a hard time with it my lap top is really messed up. if someone else could that would be awesome. heres a link to our site. thanks..http://www.holsteinworld.com/ST-YLE/
20/1/2009, 23:50   
 
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(Photo upload for Style)


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I take it this is the one Style???
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I'm guessing that's the one. Give a little speech on her style, along with her name

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21/1/2009, 0:12   
 
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thanks alot moores. her name is scenic edge joyful red. she is a sr. 2. her classification score is vg 89 with 4 E's. she was jr champion of worl dairy expo in 06. she didnt show it 07 due to an injury. and she was 1st place sr. 2 in 08 and reserve intermediate champion and supreme of the jr. show. we have 4 of her daughters on the ground 3 advent and 1 talent.
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Added a photo of Sambo Kristen taken this week to my original post.

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Yikes, I posted a picture of my nomination in my original post, but the picture is huge. Does anybody know how to make it smaller?

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21/1/2009, 18:41   
 
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Copy and paste this into your post Howie

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Farm's Holstein Herd: 25 milking and dry. Classification: 10VG 12GP 2G 1F.

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Thank You LRG!!!

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Posh Pamela EX91 2E

Did 15,342 litres last lactation on grass, grass silage and concentrates with a 373 day calving interval.

Currently over 76 tonnes milk 50 days into her 6th lactation.

She has 7 daughters, 8 grand daughters and one great grand daughter.

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Dam VG 88 Blackstar, 6 star brood cow
G Dam EX93 3E, 15 star brood cow
G G Dam EX94, 14 star brood cow

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LRG how are you going to run this thing? I hope we will be able to place them 1st, 2nd and 3rd with reasons optional.

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LRG how are you going to run this thing? I hope we will be able to place them 1st, 2nd and 3rd with reasons optional.



Surely an anonymous vote... and a very carefully worded discussion... there's been plenty of tetchiness on the site just recently.... wouln't like the consequences if we all started panning each other's cows.



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Nah, open forum vote, no reasons have to be given. Come on we're all big boys and girls here. Reasons should always express the positive anyway, no slagging allowed. My thoughts anyway.

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I'm not entirely sure yet. You can't vote 1, 2, 3 on a poll, so the open forum makes more sense that way, but we might get more votes with a poll, and optional reasons below. emoticon Me and Scotty will figure out something this weekend.

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Nomination: Nobel Aaltje 111

Classified: EX-90 at 5-05 with: EX91 Frame, EX92 Dairy Strength, VG89 MS and VG88 F&L.

Milk production (age, days, kgs milk, %fat, %protein, kgs fat, kgs protein):
2-00 305 7040 4.45 3.53 313 249
3-00 305 9713 4.47 3.50 434 340
4-02 305 10197 4.47 3.46 456 353
5-03 305 11120 4.05 3.35 450 373
(4) 1397 41542 4.37 3.48 1815 1446

Pedigree: Proud x VG85 Lava x VG85 Sunny Boy
Daughters: GP82-2yr Talent and GP83-2yr Dynasty

Was reserve champion of the Aged cows on the regional winter fair in 2008. Furthers this is the first excellent classified cow in our herd (also homebred).
  
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Milking 61 cows; Herd Classification 1EX -26VG - 27GP -5G - 2NC; Annual Milk Average 9795 - 4.3% 417 - 3.5% 342 kgs
22/1/2009, 15:16   
 
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I guess you could follow the All Canadian & All American system with different points for First, Second and Third votes. Discussion is great so long as it is positive or well reasoned CONSTRUCTIVE criticism
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That's what I was thinking was a point scale. I also like the idea of reasons. There are a lot of options. I will try to please as many as possible. This is hard to judge because you have entries of every type of cow. You still going to enter yours Eryl Vet?

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22/1/2009, 15:22   
 
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Yes, I'll try and get some pictures scanned in and posted by tomorrow evening.

Maybe it is obvious, but if it is an open vote, I assume that we will not be allowed to vote for our own cows, so that everyone has to judge all the other competitors' entries - this will make it a much fairer and less partisan vote.
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I have some pictures to add if there is time.When are you closing this LRG?

I would go for the open vote and only allow positive comments.

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Closing during what is saturday afternoon here in Atlantic Canada. Not sure how that relates to everybody else's time.

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I'll put my nomination up and scan in some more photos later. Having not been able to show or market in 2008 due to animal health restrictions (bluetongue zones etc.) it was difficult to decide what to put forward, but here goes:

Nomination: TEMPLEDALE OLGA PRELUDE EX-5* LP120 Superior Producer

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Date of birth: 3 January,1994 (currently the oldest cow in the herd)

Lifetime production (according to CIS) 125,842 kgs
http://195.153.22.85/Holsteinuk/publicweb/AnimalData/data/ASFemalefs.asp?AnimalID=1556774

Index: PLI + £144 (as a comparison for those abroad who don't know PLIs, Morningview Ashlar is + £146.) She is #35 of 1994 born cows in the UK, although possibly one of the only ones still alive!

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http://195.153.22.85/Holsteinuk/publicweb/AnimalData/data/ASAncestrydetails.asp?AnimalID=1556774

6th gen VG/EX
7th gen star brood cow


Prelude X VG-3* Tab X EX-33* Enhancer

The Tab was formerly #1 tab daughter in Canada and full sister to the show cow Templedale Julia Tab EX95-5E and maternal sister to Templedale Black Jodie Ex94-4E, Huntlodge Rosina Bell Ex91-2E and Templedale Rosel Starbuck VG 13*

Her more stylish full sister, Templedale Olivia prelude EX92-3E did well in the Creva herd in ireland, but has not distinguished herself as a brood cow like Olga.

Progeny: 5* brood cow on just four daughters classified 3 EX, 1VG
They average 90 points on feet & legs

1. Wyevalley Rosina Ivory EX91-2E (the middle cow in the photo of the Brackenridge group of Integrity daughters that was used to promote Integrity worldwide)
EDIT: As Smous noticed this photo is still on the flashing banner of the WWS website
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2. Godwins KJ Rosina ET VG87

3. Wyevalley KJ Rosina EX91-2E
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4. Godwins Kendall Olga EX90 (as a third calver - pictured below)

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A bit like Smous' nomination Olga has a bit of a life history. She was purchased more by accident than design. I spotted her pedigree in an Ontario Club Sale and asked someone to take a look at her. The report came back and i purchased her over the telephone - another breeder then 'phones and asks why I had purchased such a coarse ugly heifer - the other guy had looked at the wrong heifer!! Despite her uninspiring looks Olga duly arrived in the UK in 1996, in calf to Integrity, after having been flushed once to Juror. Half the Juror embryos went to the Godwins herd, who later purchased Olga herself at the Severnside Special Sale when she had classified GP84-2y. By this time Prelude had crashed and there was no contract interest in this functional, but not stylish heifer. In any case my parents had given up dairying and I would have had to continue to house her elsewhere. Most of the Godwins milking herd was dispersed in 2003, but Olga was kept behind and milked as a house cow for most of 2004! In 2005 I visited and was lucky enough to buy back half share in olga, her Kendall daughter and two great grand-daughters. So she returned to us and promptly scored EX ! Since her return we have only registered one bull, who has a dozen or so 15 month old daughters here that are square and functional. We have tried to flush her as an old cow, but without a great deal of success.
Impressively Olga's four daughters have accomplished themselves in four different herds (Brackenridge, Godwins, Sanigar and here). Two other daughters met untimely accidental deaths (not here).

So there you have it: Top 1% index, longevity and a star brood cow to boot, all from an uninspiring start.

Since moving from a 40 cow to a 200 cow freestall herd, our ideal cow has changed from a 64" show cow into a smaller, sturdier cow like Olga. With her lifetime production and the phenomenal feet and legs she transmitted to her daughters, she is probably as close to an ideal cow for freestalls as we have had thus far. We are looking forward to her Shottle grand-daughter calving and writing the next chapter.


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Out of curiousity Eyrl Vet, how old is she in her picture? How'd she do at the shows, because that looks like a show picture?

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Out of curiousity Eyrl Vet, how old is she in her picture? How'd she do at the shows, because that looks like a show picture?




Nope, that's taken in our building because we couldn't get outside because of typical British weather (rain, rain, rain). Sorry if I didn't make it clear the picture I've posted is her 3rd calf EX Kendall daughter. I will scan in and post Olga's own photo later, together with some more of her daughters if I can find the catalogues of the herds they were sold to. The Integrity group photo featuring her daughter was on the internet but I think its been taken down now he's gone.

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Oh, okay, sorry. I missed the part that it was her daughters photo.

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Have any cowtalkers got any bull dams out there? It is probably the one class of cow that is missing from the competition at the moment. or have any of the nominations got bulls on test?

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The Integrity group photo featuring her daughter was on the internet but I think its been taken down now he's gone.




Which one was she? (they were all good) that photo is still used in the revolving banner on the home page of the WWS website.

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The middle one.

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The middle one.



oops! ... it is a few years since I have seen the picture and looking at the photo flashing by on the WWS website I was struggling to pick her out... I think she is actually the third from the left not the fourth ... bearing in mind I sold her for 2,000 gns as a small calf at the Black and White Sale and haven't seen her in the flesh since...

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Q if we are judging cow of the year what influence should her anscestry have - re production ,show records etc.?
Arent we judging the cow and what she has done not past glories?
23/1/2009, 20:28   
 


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