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Eryl Vet
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Q if we are judging cow of the year what influence should her anscestry have - re production ,show records etc.?
Arent we judging the cow and what she has done not past glories?



We will all judge the best cow of 2008 by our own criteria - this is what makes this competition so interesting and much less predictable.

Of course we are primarily judging the individual by her own performance, whether it be conformation, index, production, lifetime yield or brood cow qualities. Some of us will put huge emphasis on show type, whilst others might put more weighting on brood cows or lifetime yield. Most of the nominations only have brief back pedigrees for interest. Obviously if it is abrood cow nomination there is much more information on her progeny.

Personally, my vote would go to the dam of a top proven bull if there was one on the card - but there isn't (yet) so I'll have to look at other criteria. To me breeding AI proven sons is the ultimate test of a cow's genetics - at least for now, until genomics are perfected!

In certain circumstances it is difficult to separate pedigree from the cow's own achievements e.g. a 12th generation excellent is a special cow ... can one ignore the previous 11 generations and say she has achieved the same as a first generation excellent?

This is why everybody's placings and reasons will be interesting, provided they stay polite and positive!!



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Well put Eyrl Vet. Nominations will close in approx. 14 hours

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Nominations are closed

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My Holstein Herd: 1VG (by Dundee) and 2 Calves (by Fortune and Goldwyn)
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Howie,I was just wondering what the production credits were on Randi? I looked on the website and it is just her 3/8 yield posted. Is the VG87 Skyfame the only daughter milking so far? For the british and Canadian cows I can get this info off the web, but it is not freely available from Holstein USA.


Although they are all great cows, this class is extremely difficult to judge because of the diversity of their accomplishments!
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Agreed Eryl Vet. They all have their strong points

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Just voted. It's hard. I hope I didn't miss anything during my reasons process. I can see every single person voting these in different orders.

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Eryl, is 03/06/2005 still Olga's last calving date? What is her status now, milking, dry or in calf?

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I take it there are a lot of undecided members?

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Voting will close Feb. 9

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To add to my reasons, my HM was my hardest placing between Aka and Joyful. In the end I decided that Aka being Int Champion at the RAWF and Reserve Int Champion at the WDE, made her show accomplishments slightly more desireable than Joyful being Reserve Int champion of the r&w WDE and supreme of the junior show. Not taking away anything from joyful, Aka's performance at RAWF simply put helped her to edge out Joyful. Congrats to both of you on a tremendous show season.

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My Holstein Herd: 1VG (by Dundee) and 2 Calves (by Fortune and Goldwyn)
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If you give 1st palce 3 pts, 2nd 2pts and 3rd 1 pt, then its a very interesting vote so far.

I make it as follows, Linderra 13, Randi 12, Aka 9, Pamala 8, Brooke 5, Joyful 4, Kristen 2 and Olga 1.

 emoticon To health and long life.
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Eryl, is 03/06/2005 still Olga's last calving date? What is her status now, milking, dry or in calf?



Still waiting!



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Just Seen that Brookvilla Jasper Aka made All Canadian.


And for the voting i think 3,2,1 for scores of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd is too small in my opioion. I see the all canadian format is 7, 3, 1 for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd......just an idea.

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Howie,I was just wondering what the production credits were on Randi? I looked on the website and it is just her 3/8 yield posted. Is the VG87 Skyfame the only daughter milking so far? For the british and Canadian cows I can get this info off the web, but it is not freely available from Holstein USA.




Sorry it has taken me so long to reply, I've been on vacation. Randi also has a 5-4 record of 33,777 1301 fat and 1019 protein. The Skyfame is her only milking daughter here and is due in March with her third calf. Randi does have a Roy milking in Wisconsin but she hasn't been classified yet. Her next two daughters that are due are two Goldwyn's, one due in March and one due in May.



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And for the voting i think 3,2,1 for scores of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd is too small in my opioion. I see the all canadian format is 7, 3, 1 for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd......just an idea.



I also thought that 1, 2 and 3 points was too close and thought may be 5, 3 and 1. I would have no problem with following the All Canadian format either.



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Just a reminder, this will be the last weekend for voting

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1) Long-haven Durham Randi
2) Bickleygate Hokes Linderra
3) Nobel Aaltje 111

All money makers and nice to look at in the parlour too.
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Voting will be extended for another 20 or so hours as i do not have time to calculate everything right now.

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Howie,I was just wondering what the production credits were on Randi? I looked on the website and it is just her 3/8 yield posted. Is the VG87 Skyfame the only daughter milking so far? For the british and Canadian cows I can get this info off the web, but it is not freely available from Holstein USA.




Sorry it has taken me so long to reply, I've been on vacation. Randi also has a 5-4 record of 33,777 1301 fat and 1019 protein. The Skyfame is her only milking daughter here and is due in March with her third calf. Randi does have a Roy milking in Wisconsin but she hasn't been classified yet. Her next two daughters that are due are two Goldwyn's, one due in March and one due in May.




Just an update on Randi's daughters. The Skyfame is now Excellent, and the Skyfame's daughter is scored VG 87 1st lactation. Rochelle scored VG 88 @ 2-3 and a full sister to Rochelle here scored VG 87 fresh one month.

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