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shilt79
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Flush Suggestions
I have a cow that is due quite soon to Sept. Storm, and needs to be flushed this lactation. She is not yet scored (classifier sees her on Friday), does not have a record (she's a recent acquisition), but does have a pedigree. She's an Integrity x EX95 Starbuck x VG87 Valiant x EX94 Fond Matt x EX95 Pineyhill Nobility x EX94 x VG. She needs some help in the leg (foot angle + Leg set), and would like to see a litte more fore rib, and a bit higher rear udder. I'm open to most anything, but since she has no index, I'm not concerned about trying to improve her numbers, just the aforementioned traits, along with keeping an eye on milk as well as component %'s. I've been trying to find the right bull for a while, but I am not happy with where I'm at. So, I am looking forward to hearing everyone's opinion, and finding that bull I hadn't thought of.
Here's her picture:
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12/4/2004, 4:27
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amlkman
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Re: Flush Suggestions
Something like Freelance, Goodluck, Spy, Extream test sound type.
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12/4/2004, 5:16
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CHARITY
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Re: Flush Suggestions
Canyon-Breeze Allen
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12/4/2004, 5:22
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triday1
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Re: Flush Suggestions
Now that's a pedigree... Having seen the old Starbuck and her being an Integrity, the legs would be a major concern of mine. One option is to breed her to the son of the original cow in the family (opal I think was her name and the bull's name was orginator or something like that)and try to intensify what you have already present, that bull sired a 95 point cow for Tom Nunes that spawned another good cow family. She pretty much has all the popular bloodlines in her now... Another interesting shot would be Hanoverhill Stardom(cult favorite), who put tremedous feet and legs on cattle, and that family generally excelled in openness and depth which he sometimes needed. Skybuck would be another choice, Encore, Starz, any one of a number of good Starbuck sons for the feet and leg issue(yes I know the Second dam is a starbuck)... Good luck with her.
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12/4/2004, 5:30
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bob hardy
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Re: Flush Suggestions
Cocherill, the Storm son from Italy.
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12/4/2004, 8:17
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canuk
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Re: Flush Suggestions
Allen- few can match the combination of chest width, and body depth, also + 10 leg set, high components, + milk. A bull seeing some use here is Jasper, again all size & frame related traits, + components, if your like me, its hard to get around the fact his sire is Bell, but his proof indicates, he is more like Lee, worth a look. Morty -looks like type may match up, but components, are not good.
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12/4/2004, 13:07
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shilt79
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Re: Flush Suggestions
Triday you're scaring me, because Stardom is one of our top choices so far, and actually we flushed a Rudolph to him last month (implanted 8 embryos). I like Allen as well, only concern is the recips. will be heifers and we've had some huge Allen calves! Thanks for all the suggestions so far, and keep them coming.
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12/4/2004, 14:03
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IndiesViewGD
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Re: Flush Suggestions
Outside good foot and leg bull and will keep her tall and fancy.
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12/4/2004, 17:35
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IndiesViewGD
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Re: Flush Suggestions
Or Dellstar EX-97 in feet and legs and should have good udders coming from the Delia family.
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12/4/2004, 18:08
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stuart m
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Re: Flush Suggestions
I'm a fan ( but not expert!) of aAa and my analyser told me nearly every Integrity he had seen needed the numbers opposite to those of Integrity. SO you would be looking for a 642 bull or something close, as you can rarely find an exact match for aAa and sire stack etc. in my experience. Some that spring to mind are Comestar Leader624 Rudolph612 Allen654 Aeroline426.
One bull we have 2 nice fresh heifers with great rear udders from, whose no.s are something like 612 I think is Markwell Nobel.
One reason people may be happy with their s
Stardoms could be his rare aAa which is something like 615 and different to the masses of 23 bulls many of us have used.
I dare bet Select would have somethig decent to fit the bill also.
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12/4/2004, 22:50
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