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MarkDay
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Who is your cow of the year?,bull of the year?event of the year?disapointment of the year? etc!!

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9/12/2003, 8:43   
 
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How about cow family of the year? I would say that the cow family from Ever Green View had a tremendous year.

Cow of the year: I don't know if anyone cow stood out this year.

Bull of the year: BW Marshall he is obviously off and running toward the status of a great one. Durham would also be an exceptable choice.

Event of the year: BSE in Canada, it has affected everything from shows, milk prices, beef prices, and a renewed focus on biosecurity on the international marketplace.

Disappointment of the year: Ashlyn having mastitis and not getting to compete on the biggest stage. Milk Prices would also qualify as disappointing/outrage.

Dispersal of the year: Top Acres Brown Swiss, I attended this sale and was just absolutely blown away by the quality from top to bottom.
9/12/2003, 17:43
 
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For me Carlow Leader is my cow of the year having seen her at Expo she looked phenomenal.Seen some Manats milking out here and they look shockingly bad <All out of EX cows!> would be my disappointment. Bull of the year has to Durham or BW Marshall both having died will make them more popular than ever but Ive been happy with Rubens having a great Louisville show and Encore daughters. Family of the year no doubt Elegance from Budjon-JK.
9/12/2003, 18:49   
 
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I'm not really sure on cow of the year because no one cow really stood out, family I agree on Elegance, also I agree on Ashlyn being disappointment of the year seeing her at expo before the show I feel if she had hit the ring she would have been grand and supreme
10/12/2003, 1:06   
 
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Cow: Carlow Leader 174 or Pine-Shelter's Lee

Bull: BW Marshall, Durham

Dissapointment: Renita Ranger Family. The bulls don't look to be turning out too hot, nor do the daughters. I think a lot of people expected more from her, but things could change.

10/12/2003, 1:30   
 
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every cow that has made it past a hundred tonnes this year are my candidates for cow of the year and the bull that will have the highest number of daughters over a hundred tonnes will get my vote for bull of the year, so I will have to let you wait a few years for my answer on who's the bull of 2003.
I second that case of BSE in Canada being the negative event of the year.
for every heavily advertised high flier, how many of comparable quality remain undiscovered just because the breeder isn't focused on that segment of the business ?
the number of effective families in the US is down to 32-34 about twenty years ago it was more than twice as many.
I think all the oowing and ahing over a few individuals has a part in that sad loss of variety.


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10/12/2003, 12:28   
 
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broa, I defy you to state your point in actual specific references. You throw out general statements and then you don't back them up. Please tell us how you would fix the problem. I am sure you must have an articulate solution to your "problems". As for the "oowing and ahing over a few individuals" can you name one that hasn't either had a tremendous impact of on the breed or isn't a quality individual?
10/12/2003, 17:33
 
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buckeyedbreeder,

for instance Blackstar got ample oportunity to prove his worth which he also did but Browncroft frontier didn't get many chances, I think that was one of untold examples how too much focus has been geared towards a few individuals and a couple of other examples of the same is Ned Boy and Valiant just to name a couple.
I'm not saying that the ones that get the attention are poor animals I'm just saying that by focusing so much attention on them we risk missing out on some that might be equally or almost equally good.
can someone claim that the genetic base is not shrinking ?
I for one see it as a treasure that is being lost for all times when the number of effective families are declining.

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10/12/2003, 17:59   
 
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Do you really see the number of effective families as declining or just those that are not emphasized. If these undiscovered families are of any quality their breeders know their value and continue to develop them with or without contracts. These animals may not have the chance on the big stage but if they are true transmitters their genetic merit should not disappear with them.
10/12/2003, 19:02
 
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bucheyedbreeder,

the term "effective families" is an expression for how many unique pedigrees that are available within a breed.
all the other millions of cows are just copies of these in one way or another.
the numbers for the holstien breed are declining.
this is not something I feel, these are known facts.

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10/12/2003, 19:37   
 
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Would an event of the year be Formation Erle setting a new record price? Over here in N.I it could be Maude's Gibson son selling for 11,000-a new record.? Could family of the year be Gypsy Grands with soo many bulls coming through from the cow?Just a few thoughts, J
11/12/2003, 10:07
 
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Yes many bulls coming from the Gypsy Grand family but how good are they??
27/12/2003, 23:15   
 


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