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A Puget-Sound Shiek
Was thinking of using him, this bull was way before my time. What do you remember about this bull? Good, bad and where to use him. Just been siting in the tank and thought I should just use it. Any info would help.
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1/6/2008, 2:56
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Jeash
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Re: A Puget-Sound Shiek
My father started our current herd in the early eighties with forty springers purchased from Canada. Twenty of those were Shiek daughters. They were wide chested and very large animals for their time. He threw some good show cows, my dad sold the best four to pay for the other thirty six. His best trait was butterfat test. All twenty Shieks tested over 5.0% on butterfat, not average 5.0 they all tested over 5.0. They also passed this trait on to the next generations, we have 6-12 cows test over 5.0 and they all traced back to one of the Shieks. They weren't the highest producers but they were proficient breeders.
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1/6/2008, 18:49
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Jeash
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Re: A Puget-Sound Shiek
Now that I think about it, why don't you sell that semen to me so I can line breed that back into my herd. 
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1/6/2008, 18:54
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now your memory is different to mine.... yes great componants cows and I love him in a pedigree but I think yours were the way they were because of their background.He worked great at skagvale because of the back ground .... colony cows.Im with Gerbrich on this one I'd protect him for chest width and dairy strength and maybe even stature.
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1/6/2008, 22:03
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Maybe thats the case, Canadian cows were woody back then. I just remember everybody talking about how tall and wide the cows were. I believe that the good show cows went to Bill Shilling, Jack Stookey's, and two went back to Canada.
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2/6/2008, 3:31
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A Puget-Sound Shiek
thanks for all the good posts. I always new he was a good component bull. Was he ever a sire of sons that did any good?
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2/6/2008, 4:46
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Re: A Puget-Sound Shiek
Sheik his aAa is 624513.
He is good for adding Style (aAa6): long rump, strong pasterns, less foottrimming, thurls central between hips and pins. Tall (aAa2) long bones, high loin hips and rearudder, longer teats, elastic foreudder. Strong (aAa4) for a deep chest with more capacity for hart and lungs to develop a better bloodcirculation with helps overall health, more mature size.
He needs protection on the Dairy (aAa1), deeper ribs, enough milk for size, Smooth (aAa5) sprung ribs, overall width and Open (aAa3) Open ribs and pelvis for easy walking and more room for udder and calving.
His big influence in Holland is because of his grandson Skalsummer Sunnyboy (aAa 342516). He is a Nehls Chief Crusader (aAa351...)out of a Sheik Mother.
I do not think Sheik makes a typical good cross on Chief bloodlines it was just that Nehls was an Open, Smooth, Dairy bull but that is not typical Chief, he was more a Strong bull.
Another well known grandson is Comestar Leader (aAa 462351) he is a Blackstar(aAa345126) son out of a Sheik mother.
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2/6/2008, 8:53
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A Puget-Sound Shiek
The only son I can ever remember in the US was Pinehurst Avant-Garde
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6/6/2008, 1:52
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Re: A Puget-Sound Shiek
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The only son I can ever remember in the US was Pinehurst Avant-Garde
I also have some Pinehurst Avant-Garde has anyone milked any? Your thoughts on them. I think I remember reading in the Pinehurst despersal catalog that there was a daughter of His that sold that was EX even thirty years after his release.
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6/6/2008, 22:56
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A Puget-Sound Shiek
just looked back, it was a copyright daughter.
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6/6/2008, 23:09
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A Puget-Sound Shiek
about avant-garde, i've milked two of them. one started 82 as a 2 year old, went vg second calf but I had to cull her after 5 calves due to injured teat. the second was 77 first score but VG by her 4th calf, now due with her 6th calf at 7 years old. Both were obviously slow maturing, super deep and wide, decent legs, nice udders but large hand-milking style teats. Higher SCCs but they breed back fast, which is unusual. And if you can be patient for a lactation or two they become pretty good milkers.
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9/6/2008, 18:36
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