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multiple excellents what is the the record?
what is the record in each country?
Where would i find details ?
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2/6/2008, 9:55
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Well done Jim,
I see your Daphne has joined the list of 10E cows along with Horwood Beattie 38 and Ceinwen Bonze. It's a fantastic achievement.
The list of UK cows is on the Holstein UK website, click Animal Data, then Holstein Classifications to find the list.
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2/6/2008, 11:16
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The record in Australia is Leven Valley I. Shamrock-ET she is currently EX8E. she by inspiration and went 8E in 2005 at 15 years of age.
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2/6/2008, 14:11
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multiple excellents what is the the record?
The record here in Canada is held by Floydholm Starbuck Polly EX-12E just out the road from me.
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3/6/2008, 17:12
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Scotty Mac4
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multiple excellents what is the the record?
Polly is 18 years old.
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3/6/2008, 17:14
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Re: multiple excellents what is the the record?
Hey guys,
I was just looking at the Floydholm Starbuck Polly Ex12E cow, i thought there was some very interesting scores for her classification. There is a major outlier in the cows rump, she went from VG85 on her 12th lactation too G75 on her 13th and then back to GP81 on her 14th lactation. A drop of 10 then up 6???!?! I have put together some graphs for cowtalk viewers, they are an uploaded excel spreadsheet, if you go to:
http://drop.io/FloydholmStarbuckPolly
Password: Chinesefood
Take a look and let us know what you think. This cow is obviously a breed champion, an outstanding individual in her own merit. I would say a cow in a league of her own. I am defiantly not knocking the cow with the graphs, i find that her individual scores although are extremely interesting. In AUS with a lot of our cows you can see a common pattern over time with the classification of the cow, with this cow it seems by looking at the graphs that her classification breakdowns are inconsistant. Let us know what you think.
Declan Patten
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5/6/2008, 6:02
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multiple excellents what is the the record?
Yes this is interesting, maybe it is influenced by conditioning or stage of pregnancy? But to have a difference of 10 points, I don't know. Different classifiers? But with this case no way should there be a difference of 10 or 6 points!
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5/6/2008, 17:13
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Re: multiple excellents what is the the record?
Some classifiers make the individual parts fit the final score rather than building the score from how the parts actually fit.
Maybe the rump got put down to 75 so that the final score didn't go up a point or two?
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5/6/2008, 17:56
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multiple excellents what is the the record?
Yes I know , i've seen the same thing happening.
They have the score in their heads as soon as the cow.
Any classifiers on cowtalk who can defend or explain these scores?
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5/6/2008, 20:42
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multiple excellents what is the the record?
check these out at Holstein Canada if you want to see some classifier bloopers on both sides of the boarder.
Cathland Countess - remember her
Solid-Rock Kandell-I thought 74pts made you Fair
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6/6/2008, 12:41
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multiple excellents what is the the record?
I suppose the classifiers are human after all!
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6/6/2008, 12:46
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ilander
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multiple excellents what is the the record?
I also looked up this cow.What struck me was how did she get to be 12E?My understanding is that the cow can only recieve a multiple after each calving.
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7/6/2008, 0:31
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Re: multiple excellents what is the the record?
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I also looked up this cow.What struck me was how did she get to be 12E?My understanding is that the cow can only recieve a multiple after each calving.
Ilander it looks like the farm quit milk recording in 2003.
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7/6/2008, 0:38
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multiple excellents what is the the record?
yea.I'm a litte slow sometimes.I only counted the recorded lactations.
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7/6/2008, 0:42
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Re: multiple excellents what is the the record?
I think you can classify multiple times during a lactation as long as they are a minimum of 100 days apart
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7/6/2008, 0:46
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multiple excellents what is the the record?
very common in the us, I know of a famous herd that scores about 12x a year, I beleive every 60 days you can run a cow by so a lot of their cows get scored or run by 6x a year, the classifier won't say no to raising her every time, so by the end of the two year old lactation you can have her at about 89 points first calf if she is decent. It used to fire me up, now I figure it makes the association money and when people see cows from these herds, they know, so no big deal.
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7/6/2008, 16:00
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Mayjay
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Re: multiple excellents what is the the record?
Once per lact. in Canada also.
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8/6/2008, 6:08
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multiple excellents what is the the record?
so you can't get raised if you go 90 a month fresh, to 92 later on?
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8/6/2008, 16:19
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Re: multiple excellents what is the the record?
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so you can't get raised if you go 90 a month fresh, to 92 later on?
I was under the impression you could get raised like that in the UK, but didn't get an extra E on the pedigree if it happened.
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8/6/2008, 17:27
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multiple excellents what is the the record?
in Canada the points can be raised at any point in a cows lactation but cant get another E until they have another calf
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8/6/2008, 19:00
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JTTH
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Re: multiple excellents what is the the record?
Here, cows only get scoret in first 3 lact. But they can go EX i first lact.
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8/6/2008, 19:43
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