mattenglish
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Cederwal Spirte
We have had many Spirte calves in the last 3 months and we have had a hard time trying to keep them alive. I was wondering if anyone else was having similar difficulties and what there thoughts are on this bull. Many of our calves are too frail and just dont seem to live more than 2 weeks but if they survive more than a month they seem fine.
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15/7/2008, 2:44
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svennis
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Re: Cederwal Spirte
Have not used him, but he has been dicussed on cowtalk previously.
Here are two links:
http://com3.runboard.com/bcowtalk.f8.t11126
http://com3.runboard.com/bcowtalk.f8.t1212
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15/7/2008, 10:37
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Re: Cederwal Spirte
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SpringleazeHolsteins wrote:
I would think you have a problem such as rota virus or something like that if you are losing a lot of young calves, its unlikely to be the sire.
We had a similar problem with a bull, not Spirte, several years ago. Only seemed to affect daughters of that bull.
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15/7/2008, 19:05
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mattenglish
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Cederwal Spirte
Its not a virus i ment that they were dying because we killed them ourselves with a bullet. They were just not aggresive calves at all and just were not good calves to deal with.
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15/7/2008, 20:19
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Re: Cederwal Spirte
 heifer calves?
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15/7/2008, 21:10
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mattenglish
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Cederwal Spirte
Yea we kill them because really they are no good to us because they are not aggresive eaters so they would probably die anyway
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16/7/2008, 0:49
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mattenglish
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Cederwal Spirte
Yea they get at least 3 litres of colustrum but they are still tough to get going.
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16/7/2008, 18:07
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Cederwal Spirte
Had the same problem with my Primetime calves ,but havent shot anything since the police took my shot gun away, but that was a misunderstanding regarding some starlings
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16/7/2008, 19:44
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SandraUK
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Cederwal Spirte
our first two spirte calves died(not shot) they were of really strong animals no reason for them to die. they lived to 3-4weeks and died all other calves by different sires are fine .
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16/7/2008, 19:59
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Jeash
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Re: Cederwal Spirte
We have had the same problem with our pronto calves. It has gotten to the point that we dont even try to get them to suckle we just tube them right away. However, after two tubbings they take off and are really aggressive. Registered heifers are worth $800 a few days old around here, cant afford to throw that away with a bullet to the head.
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19/7/2008, 8:28
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very nice
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Re: Cederwal Spirte
All our Spirte calves have been fairly normal, we've not had any more trouble with them than any other bull we've used. We used him along with Mailing on serving a big group of bulling heifers and we found the Mailings were smaller and more weakly than the Spirtes!
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22/7/2008, 13:26
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