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Has anyone seen any daughters by this bull?
he has some good points in his type breakdown!
2/3/2006, 8:31   
 
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Sorry have not seen any milking, but have heard good reports on his calves. His low milk scares most(and the fact he sires nice calves, scares the real breeders!!!) I am not fond of his pedigree, but also like his proof, and have used him a couple of times on repeat breeders.
2/3/2006, 15:45   
 
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Like most we were scared by his pedigree a bit - I cant really imagine a Lee off a Bellwood siring great udders.
But we used a bit, seemed end up with about half a dozen heifer calves, that we really really like.. Long necked, stylish and correct. The eldest are only about 6 months, but certainly as a group of calves the bunch I like the best of anything we've got..
Is he currently available (UK or elsewhere?)
2/3/2006, 18:29   
 
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Used some of him, partly due to him looking like such a great bull himself....... love the calves, strong tops, deep rib and very stylish Hope he lives up to his proof. emoticon
2/3/2006, 18:51   
 
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We have one 2 month old calf, I like her a lot.
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Talked to Brian Behnke at Wisconsin State Holstein Sale. He said if you want fancy heifers that turn into phenomonal cows you need to use Jasper. I guess I will listen to the guy who just judged Madison
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Talked to Brian Behnke at Wisconsin State Holstein Sale. He said if you want fancy heifers that turn into phenomonal cows you need to use Jasper. I guess I will listen to the guy who just judged Madison



That sounds so real!
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surreal?

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Judging from the quote I got, Jasper might be one they'd rather shift now rather than one to watch for the future. Not many first crop bulls that look destined for greatness get their price dropped to £10.
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£10 seems a good deal now, considering his latest type proof
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Thank You mootoyou, for bringing this post to the top! Karma vote sent your way.


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 emoticon

Always a pleasure!!!!

PS further to my post, probably best part of 2 years ago, still really like them!

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Why would anyone want to pay money to get no milk with poor fertility?

there's plenty of milk bulls that can hamper that sinfull urge to get in calf.
at least she'll give some milk to pay for all the straws of semen you'll spend trying to get her settled.

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  This bull ranks 658th on milk for those avaiable in the UK


  There's 90 bulls over 700kgs milk

          165 over 600kgs milk

          252 over 500kgs milk
   

          345 over 400kgs milk

          458 over 300kgs milk


  so basically if I cant find bulls over 600kgs milk worth using in the UK then why the hell am I in dairy farming ? So from now on 600kgs milk min and whatever type I decide on

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Broa although this bull would not work for you or me. I have no doubt that he would be marketable to those looking to breed show cows or those looking for a high reliablility type improver to use on a deep cow family. Jasper has his place in the holstein breed. Also if everyone used him besides me, my milk check would look a whole lot better.
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Jeb,

here's how it is, every now and again I spot something on here that just triggers this unrelenting urge to Image

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23/8/2007, 8:24   
 
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you can use your high milk bulls and I will use the high type bulls and when you are short of cows you can buy my extra jaspers heifers then. just stir the pot a little more
24/8/2007, 13:59   
 
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c316. . . I have pleasure in awarding you a Karma point, I couldn't of wished for someone to have put it better!!!

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Talk about devaluing the currency.

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24/8/2007, 16:43   
 
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That's what makes this forum interesting. . . . that there are always a variety of different oppinions. . . . .

Whatever aspect you decide is right or wrong, it is your freedom of choice to have an oppinion and decide for yourself.

Like they say Variety is the spice of life!
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Ok here goes.. Image

quote:

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you can use your high milk bulls and I will use the high type bulls and when you are short of cows you can buy my extra jaspers heifers then. just stir the pot a little more





That is utter nonsense because jasper has a productive life of .5

There are thousands of bulls with higher PL's and more milk.

If you want to use high type bulls that's up to you but don't pretend they will also be more profitable and last longer because it is not always true. In jaspers case it certainly isn't.


I use high milk bulls,breed 40% of the herd to beef and still have a surplus.

Oh, and if you high type at all costs boys really want to use Bellwood bloodlines then Merchant wipes the floor with Jasper and still has pretty good type



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In C316s defence, it's always the heifers/cows that exhibit better type that command the highest prices at monthly sales such as Beeston, Lancaster, and Carlisle, so perhaps they might be more profitable to some!

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Mark,
while in Scotland I think I might aim my harley south and pay you a visit but for now you have to make due with my karma point for the day emoticon

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I have seen Jasper Full Sister back 4 years ago. She was at Policow, she was dry out on the pasture, but I think I could easily say that she is a good cow. Anyway F&L could be an issue as mastities as well...

Even is we liked the cow overall we didn't use him since we didn't consider him to fit our herd management.

For the Show lovers he could sire some really fancy heifers. Not sure how they woul develope as milking cows.

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pedigree?
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Lee x Bellwood x Highlight

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quote:

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Mark,
while in Scotland I think I might aim my harley south and pay you a visit but for now you have to make due with my karma point for the day emoticon



Looking forward to it Broa! emoticon

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25/8/2007, 21:32   
 
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My jasper milking heifer is in infirmary and ithink that is very difficult that she's able to exit, great frame but too bad legs , she's backed by a Capri therefore it is not all guilt of Jasper
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My jasper milking heifer is in infirmary and ithink that is very difficult that she's able to exit, great frame but too bad legs , she's backed by a Capri therefore it is not all guilt of Jasper



Hi Marco, you forgot to mention that your Jasper is backed by a Rudolph Grand Dam as well...

Jasper x Capri x Rudolph...(F&L problems? Really?!?)

I would use Jasper on Mtotos, Tugolos, Skywalkers, Titanics...


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