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Deslacs Milkstar
has anyone seen any or have any info not straight from proof sheets?
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10/10/2004, 18:36
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Re: Deslacs Milkstar
All I know is other than Quebec, he is not availabe for everyday use, nobody here seems too interested, but those components are hard to ignore.
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13/10/2004, 2:19
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Re: Deslacs Milkstar
£18 a squirt over here ..thats about $40 aint it?  . Not much milk looks to be about a £3 bull.
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13/10/2004, 7:54
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Re: Deslacs Milkstar
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All I know is other than Quebec, he is not availabe for everyday use, nobody here seems too interested, but those components are hard to ignore.
Not specific to this bull, but in general, why would a bull only be available for everyday use in one region?
First thing that comes to my mind is maybe the semen doesn't freeze as well as it might.
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13/10/2004, 8:25
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Re: Deslacs Milkstar
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£18 a squirt over here ..thats about $40 aint it? . Not much milk looks to be about a £3 bull.
More interested in the components than the milk, Will. Lookng for a bull for a couple of heifers out of very high yielding cows that are under 3.5 fat.
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13/10/2004, 8:32
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Re: Deslacs Milkstar
The short version why 1 bull is available in one region and not another, is underlying semex the old CIAQ, EBI, WOBI, Gencor(UBI), still exist to some degree. All still have there own areas to cover, and aside from the very top bulls, each area may add on one or two of their own, espesacially if he was bred in there own area.
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13/10/2004, 12:18
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Re: Deslacs Milkstar
I've seen about 10 of these in British Columbia. They consistently have large frames, good feet and legs and very well attached fore udders. As they aren't very milky, and most were getting stale at the time I saw them, they lack bloom in the rear udder and carry more than adequate condition.
As for only being available in some areas of Canada, each of the 4 studs in the Semex Alliance decides independently what bulls they put on their proof sheet, based on what they feel will sell in their market area. Bulls on the proof sheet are theoretically always available, if they aren't on the proof sheet, there may be a bit of a wait to get them as they need to be ordered in.
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27/10/2004, 6:08
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Re: Deslacs Milkstar
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I've seen about 10 of these in British Columbia. They consistently have large frames, good feet and legs and very well attached fore udders. As they aren't very milky, and most were getting stale at the time I saw them, they lack bloom in the rear udder and carry more than adequate condition.
Sounds to me like Lee but with more oomph, which is about what the proof says.
From the MDC conversion he appears to have added about 100 litres of milk to his production proof.
Also sounds like the sort of bull that will do well on my system so I've ordered some.
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3/11/2004, 10:21
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BB, how are your Milkstars looking?
Anyone else have any daughters or seen any milking?
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24/1/2007, 16:52
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Ours are breeding age now. I was disappointed in them as calves but they have been improving steadily since.
Thus far, they are "tidy" calves but don't exhibit the power suggested by Milkstar's proof (the eldest has two sisters 62" and 64" tall, one sired by Lee. She is not nearly so much animal as her sisters, but correct enough. Another has a much better sister by Spirte to calve this spring--again, she's too tidy, not enough strength and stretch).
The Lees developed a lot between breeding age and second/third calving. I hope that the Milkstars follow this pattern.
I have not yet seen one milking.
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24/1/2007, 18:37
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BB, how are your Milkstars looking?
Bit all over the place, doesn't seem to be any sire stamp to them at all. Very much seem to follow their dams for frame, rump and legs.
Couple of real smart ones from VG 2yr dams, couple of others need looking at through dark glasses.
Wouldn't look at them as a bunch and feel the need to order more straws at this point.
(That's a little harsh. Had been working around a couple of poorer one's this afternoon, and the vision had stuck)
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24/1/2007, 19:43
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BB, how are your Milkstars looking?
First couple milking are more friesian than holstein, looks and milk.
Not good enough to particularly want to keep them, slow enough milking not to feel comfortable selling them.
Best hope they improve with age.
Next one due does look much better typewise, but mother is very slow milking which doesn't fill me with optimism
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7/11/2007, 20:06
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Milking 9 now with one more to calve later in the year. 3 VG heifers, 1 at 84, 3 at 83, only 1 scoring less than 80 as a heifer and that had more to do with a tough calving than anything else.
Rear udders similar to Lee, decent frames, well put together.
Not flyers for milk but components pretty good. Couple of second calvers milking quite well, big improvements on heifer yields.
Slower than average milking speed but not to the degree of being a problem.
Far from being a train wreck, and would consider using again if the price were right as a budget/sweeper type of bull.
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24/3/2009, 8:54
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Re: Deslacs Milkstar
We have only got one milking heifer by Milkstar- classified VG87. Went to first show (Bath & West) last week and won a strong heifer in milk class and ended up Honorable Mention. People were very complimentary about her and we are highly pleased with her, she has tremendous style and good big frame with a great width of rear udder. She is 203 days calved and still giving 35 kgs a day @ 4.08%b/f and 3.25% protein having given 6,213 kgs so there is no shortage of milk
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1/6/2009, 11:42
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Classifier came last week and raved about this heifer and although she has been calved now 8 months he put her up a point to 88 and she will not be 3 years old until mid august. We are thrilled with her - she is still giving 38 kgs a day and is due in November.
We have bought a few more straws of Milkstar semen because of her to use on cows that leak milk, but I would be wary of using him on slow milkers as our heifer would be just on the slow side of average, but she is giving a fair amount of milk.
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18/7/2009, 7:43
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She must have been a slow starter :
first 203 days 6213/203 = 30,6 Kg
at 7 month = 35 Kg
and now at 8 month = 38 Kg
What was here peak since your writing "still giving 38 kg" ?
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18/7/2009, 9:02
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10 milking, 3 VG87, 1 VG86, 1 VG85, 1 VG85 2yr. Other heifers at 84, 83 & 82. Currentlty only one second calver not VG, and she's GP82.
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30/10/2009, 12:53
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