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Keyboards in Rock-- Is There a "Continental Divide"?
Do audiences have to be from Europe, Asia, or South America to "get" the concept of keyboards in rock?
Is it indeed true that audiences from America will never fully grasp the concept, because they are just too enamored by the guitar to take notice?
Is it also true with American musicians vs. their Euro, Asian, and S. American counterparts, or are musicians better able to cross the instrument/continent line than audiences?
And yes, I know there are exceptions everywhere (maybe I too am one of them...but I certainly don't pretend to speak for the masses), but I'm speaking more of overall trend, than of specific exceptions.
On my poll, in the second vote, that should read "....is ACCEPTED everywhere." Not "....is EXCEPTED..."
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13/4/2008, 20:24
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Re: Keyboards in Rock-- Is There a "Continental Divide"?
Styx,
Journey,
Dream Theater,
Toto...
Need I go on?
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14/4/2008, 7:45
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David Meadows
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Re: Keyboards in Rock-- Is There a "Continental Divide"?
There might be a "decade divide".
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17/4/2008, 8:03
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B3Burner
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Re: Keyboards in Rock-- Is There a "Continental Divide"?
quote:
Bobbi Flekman wrote:
Styx,
Journey,
Dream Theater,
Toto...
Need I go on?
Okay, I see what you are saying, (and I'll admit I'm not as musically familiar with these bands as I am Deep Purple), but do any of them utilize keys in the same "aggressive, lead" fashion as say DP did/does?
I'm not saying that every band has to have a keyboard player that plays Hammond like JL to legitimize their use of keys, but you have to admit that his aggressive lead role on keys seems to be more a "Euro" thing, than anything I ever heard out of the States-- with maybe the notable exception of Greg Rolli when he was with Santana in 1969 and 1970.
So maybe Dave Meadows is right: It's a decade thing, not a continent or country thing.
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28/4/2008, 17:21
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Re: Keyboards in Rock-- Is There a "Continental Divide"?
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... but do any of them utilize keys in the same "aggressive, lead" fashion as say DP did/does?...
I think that the terms agressive and/or lead are subjective. But definitely Dream Theater will fit the terms as the keyboards have just as much of a lead role as the lead guitars do.
If you take a band like Saga I don't think the keyboards are agressive, but they are definitely lead.
My point was more that many, many American bands exist in the rock kingdom where if you take away the keys the house of cards will
crumble. Take a look at Foreigner, how would the "Cold As Ice" sound without that piano banging away? Without those Hammond stabs? It's not lead, but it is vital to the sound, Just as that Moog fill between the first chorus and second verse.
Bands like Styx or Journey are absolutely gone if the synthesizers go belly-up during a gig. Even though they are on the softer spectrum of (hard-)rock/metal.
I don't even think that it is a decade thing. It just hangs on the definition of the term rock. Is what Kelly Clarkson is doing considered rock (personally I see it as pop rock just as Avril Lavigne and others)? If so, there are huge walls of keyboards in her music. Old bands like Kansas, Styx, Journey, etc. are still going strong. Just like the Southern Rock acts like Lynyrd Skynyrd. Power metal like Symphony X have more of a "agressive, lead" feel for keyboards than the bands mentioned earlier. I am not aware of Goth Metal bands in the US, but judging on the European side (Nightwish, Lacuna Coil, Within Temptation, After Forever, Autumn, Xandria, etc.) they drown in keyboards, varying from pads to solos, so dumb logic says the Americans would to.
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