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Good post KB.

I've never doubted MIJF's interest in Blackmore!

His motives for constantly questioning Dawk are however quite clear. His selling a rival product. One cannot forget that when reading his posts in which he classifies anyone not believing his arguments as foolish fanboys.

I agree Dawk's (or Jerry's - seems like they make different claims but which are presented as said by the same guy) story has holes in it, but my conclusion is he did do most of what he claimed. Which year, which month, that's trivial. I suppose the main thing is he is selling the MTC saying RB used it, and this was confirmed by Blackmore.

No matter how one spin-doctors it, RBTC is sold on the implication it has something concrete to do with Blackmore, and at MIJF's site there is even said if one wants to get closer to Blackmore's gear and sound than the official Blackmore stuff, he/she should get RBTC and other RBxx products. There's a grey area there.

But to each their own. Like I've said before, I'm not saying RBTC or MTC do or won't do what they promise. I've never tried out either one.
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Good post KB.

I've never doubted MIJF's interest in Blackmore!

His motives for constantly questioning Dawk are however quite clear. His selling a rival product. One cannot forget that when reading his posts in which he classifies anyone not believing his arguments as foolish fanboys.

I agree Dawk's (or Jerry's - seems like they make different claims but which are presented as said by the same guy) story has holes in it, but my conclusion is he did do most of what he claimed. Which year, which month, that's trivial. I suppose the main thing is he is selling the MTC saying RB used it, and this was confirmed by Blackmore.

No matter how one spin-doctors it, RBTC is sold on the implication it has something concrete to do with Blackmore, and at MIJF's site there is even said if one wants to get closer to Blackmore's gear and sound than the official Blackmore stuff, he/she should get RBTC and other RBxx products. There's a grey area there.

But to each their own. Like I've said before, I'm not saying RBTC or MTC do or won't do what they promise. I've never tried out either one.



Rezi: I think maybe you are still confused. I personally wanted to get a sound for myslef which contained the bits of BLackmore's sound which I really liked. Personally I preferred the SIUA/BN sound, fiunding it more refined than a lot of the early Rainbow sound. I mean LIVE sound here, ignore the records they are no thing you can reproduce anyway. So I buy the MTC and find, after a lot of false hope and culdesacs that it gave me nothing I wanted. So the RBTC was created to give what I wanted and not unsurprisingly to get to what it does I used sound samples from SUIA Live shows and told the tech, make that "fat/smooth" sound. He did, I listened I liked it, we re-fined it and the RBTC was there giving a "fat/smooth" sound which combined with just the amp( my amp and others) gave a sound I liked that reminded me of what I heard Blackmroe do in SIUA. Now it's that simple. The RBTC does exactly what it claims it will do, period, "fat/smooth" sound at low guitar volume.

So turning to the claim that it will get you closer than the "official gear". There is no gray area as you say, it's really simple and quite clear, if you know the facts. The facts are that there are really only TWO officially endorsed Blackmore Products. The Fender guitars of which there have been 3 versions todate(Japan,USA Setneck, Mexico) and the ENGL amp of which there have been a couple of versions and now just 1 remains. BLackmore NEVER used the Signature ENGL or guitars in a real situation, he used the KT88 filled Savage 120's and an ENGL combo. The Fender guitars, have the same neck as Blackmore's and they do NOT have the MTC nor ANY circuit other than the standard guitar capacitor. I have had ENGL amps modified and offer a mod to these amps to sort out the front end of them to get a more precise accurate sound and I offer the RBTC and the RBTB pedal which certianly will get you closer to the Blackmore sound than the standard gear, quite simply because the standard gear is just that it's entirely "standard" and has no refinements aimed at a specific sound. The whole thing is that as NOBODY offers a "Blackmore in a Box" as yet, it's all subjective as to whether you will sound like Blackmore or not and it's also to your ears and taste. However overall using the products I've made, using my ears, will get you closer to my idea of what I hear when I hear Blackmore play. It's just that simple Rezi.

Blackmore has told you what HE did to his gear and he has NOT actualy confirmed the MTC at all in my view and certianly when he had the golden opportunity in his video he never even mentioned it or Dawk. In reality for all YOU know Blackmore may never have modifed ANY of his gear at all, you only have the ramblings of Dawk which are also wholly contradicted by Blackmore's version to go on. So we could all be barking up the wrong tree!

Time will tell.
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I offer the RBTC and the RBTB pedal which certianly will get you closer to the Blackmore sound than the standard gear, quite simply because the standard gear is just that it's entirely "standard" and has no refinements aimed at a specific sound. The whole thing is that as NOBODY offers a "Blackmore in a Box" as yet, it's all subjective as to whether you will sound like Blackmore or not and it's also to your ears and taste. However overall using the products I've made, using my ears, will get you closer to my idea of what I hear when I hear Blackmore play. It's just that simple Rezi.

Time will tell.



Yeah, it's all subjective when it comes to a particular sound all right. That was my point all the time.

Like you said, time will tell if any additional info turns up on Dawk's involvment with RB.

I personally, as a fan of RB's sound on the Rising tour, am interested above all who modified the two rosewood fingerboard Strats. In one interview, RB even said the white one was specially built to him, but I think he refers to changes made in the guitar to tackle with the problems with the rainbow. That guitar also sounded amazing (IMO), of which a prime example is the sound he has in "Blues" on On Stage.

I'm not interested in getting the same set-up. I like what I've got now. But for historical curiosity. 1975-76/77 is the period I'm most into as far as Blackmore is concerned, though obviously I'm interested in every part of his career.

As for now, I think I'm tired (but not confused - some 'misunderstandings' are not accidental...) to the subject. Thanks for the debate and good luck with your ventures.
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We're done??? emoticon

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We're done??? emoticon



Heh, I just said I'm done until new material on the subject turns up. Feel free to carry on!

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However, till you guys stop hiding behind your screen names and produce some verifiable evidence of your actual identities then what's to discuss with you, like I wrote, you are just more talking heads, because you choose to remain annonomous.



Am I reading this right from the man who's had countless of other forum names then I can count, only switching to another one when he's found out. Come on. This is an internet forum, where YOU choose to participate in the first place.

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You can sit there posting all the defamatory sh1te you like about me or my products, but till you have real identities, why would I care, it's meaningless.



That's the thing and you seem to be missing the point again. This discussion started after YOU threw quotes which were discredited by us, backed up by supported articles etc. Nobody's conspiring against you AFAI, just a reaction to dishonest comments you seem to be spamming on every topic, which as it turned out where mostly against your own competition.

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My current view is that overall there is nothing really to discuss with you till it's clear who is conducting the discussions. We know who I am, who Dawk is, who Jerry is, who Steve Renton is, who Stratman70 and KB are. So who are Gatts888 , Stratobastard and yourself as well Rezi, let's put some real names, phone numbers, addresses and faces to the screen names, then we have things to discuss, till then, it's just like a childrens game for you guys, you can say anything you like and then run for cover



Wasn't that your favourite game? But anyhow do you honestly think I or Rezi for instance are "agents of Dawk" set out on a conspiracy to discredit you? No, we just proved you wrong in an honest discussion no need to see that as a personal attack or a big conspiracy plan, jeez.




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But anyhow do you honestly think I or Rezi for instance are "agents of Dawk" set out on a conspiracy to discredit you? No, we just proved you wrong in an honest discussion no need to see that as a personal attack or a big conspiracy plan, jeez.



Well said Gatts.
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I believe you both work for the Dawksound Promotion Departement emoticon

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I believe you both work for the Dawksound Promotion Departement emoticon



Nice piece of self-irony!
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I believe you both work for the Dawksound Promotion Departement emoticon



Nice piece of self-irony!



Yeah, well... Y'know, I've been accused of working in promotion for mijfenders....I do not, I'm just a happy customer emoticon

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