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Dartagnan
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This is a lovely solo by Joe, preferable, in my humble whatever, than Steve Morse's effort. What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEF6YO-VcVg&NR


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Here's Steve's....tumeni notes, far too many notes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ6_Aum8YLk


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Live at Olympia WaBMC > all.
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Yeah, Satriani played WABMC beautifully.

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Live at the Olympia is still the best version I've heard. I like it even better than Blackmore's original, even though his take on it was totally different than either Morse's or Satriani's. (I guess it's the was the lack of sustain.)

As for the youtube clip, it's great. But the only thing I like better about Satriani's solo is his guitar sound. Usually Satriani's guitar sounds a lot better than Morse's.

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Live at the Olympia is still the best version I've heard. I like it even better than Blackmore's original, even though his take on it was totally different than either Morse's or Satriani's. (I guess it's the was the lack of sustain.)

As for the youtube clip, it's great. But the only thing I like better about Satriani's solo is his guitar sound. Usually Satriani's guitar sounds a lot better than Morse's.

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Well, I much prefer JS's guitar tone, and SM, in my view, plays far too many notes! Satriani's take is far more tasteful. I know it's a bit of a cliche, but sometimes, playing nothing at all, or very little, makes a solo far more dramatic and emotional.


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I really don't understand that reasoning. for me it's the the product itself (the solo) that counts, not it's individual pieces. If it's many notes, or few notes, don't really enter into. There's no natural correlation between number of notes and "emotionality" (if that's a word). For the audience, it's all in the ear of the beholder.

Besides, Morse's solo on the Olympia album doesn't qualify as a fretboard fest. There are a few quick-runs, yes, but overall it fits the mood of the song quite well. You can see/hear the occasional runs as brief outbursts of emotional, um, frustration. There's so much longing and yearning in the playing that sometimes it can't hold itself back. Thus the runs actually add emotional depth.

Irrespective, it's the totality of the solo that counts for me. The melodic "arc". The emotional states (moods) it manages to evoke. It works for me.

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I really don't understand that reasoning. for me it's the the product itself (the solo) that counts, not it's individual pieces. If it's many notes, or few notes, don't really enter into. There's no natural correlation between number of notes and "emotionality" (if that's a word). For the audience, it's all in the ear of the beholder.

Besides, Morse's solo on the Olympia album doesn't qualify as a fretboard fest. There are a few quick-runs, yes, but overall it fits the mood of the song quite well. You can see/hear the occasional runs as brief outbursts of emotional, um, frustration. There's so much longing and yearning in the playing that sometimes it can't hold itself back. Thus the runs actually add emotional depth.

Irrespective, it's the totality of the solo that counts for me. The melodic "arc". The emotional states (moods) it manages to evoke. It works for me.

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Fair enough! It doesn't work for me at all! 'Vive le difference', or whatever it is. It's those bits where SM hits a note, and then, where I'm waiting for the note to die out, or just stop, he fills the 'space' with lots of other notes that for me are just unnecessary. Lots of musicians are just scared of silence, it seems to me.

See, you say, it's the solo that counts...well, for me, it's the song first, does the solo fit the song? Answer, in this case, for me, is no. It's not just because I have Blacker's original solo in my head, either. Satriani's is, by comparison, beautifully played. On the other hand, I have the Stuart Smith album where Richie Sambora guests on WABMC, and I find that version lacking in taste, too. Way too over the top, for my liking.

The song must come first - otherwise, why bother. Just do an album of instrumentals and be done with it.




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"afraid of silence" - good point, but I do agree with both arguments. However SM can not sit still with some Blackmore classics - he always does too much - I do not like from SM is
1) Highway Star whammy-bar intro - childish...
2) Smoke - dreadful heavy intro rif...
3) Perfect Strangers - wmammy-bar antics again...

But, he does play better solos than we give him credit for...
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1) Highway Star whammy-bar intro - childish...



You do realize that he's re-creating the intro of the studio recording?

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