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I like Lazy and SOTW, also the Irvine tracks as well, as I was at both of those concerts and they were light years ahead of what came out as an album, having seen the shows, the album was a huge let down, but might be tolerable for me otherwise.
Should have been at least 4 sides here, because discluding TUL and Beethoven was ridiculous, but Roger said that these tracks were distorted on all of the tapes they used(excuse?) but he was wrong concerning the Irvine SBD recording, as those tracks come in loud and clear, and could have been included on NP with no need to even mix them, as they sound as good as anything included on NP, even after Nick Davis engineered them.(dull job anyway, imo)
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Some Roger Glover comments about "Nobody's Perfect":
"The release of this album ["Nobody's Perfect"] is perfect timing for us because "House of Blue Light" was disappointing; it did okay, but it would've been nicer to have had a bigger hit with it. It misses that 'trademark' assocated with Deep Purple, which this live album has written all over it. This is real Deep Purple, this is a definitive statement like "Made In Japan" was a definitive statement about the band in '72 - that was the band. This ["Nobody's Perfect"] is a 'state of the union' address."
"It's interesting to listen to the older songs [and] then listen to the performances we put in now - they've tightened up a lot & probably gotten a lot faster. If you listen to "Smoke On The Water" from "Made In Japan" & then from "Nobody's Perfect" - or "Nobody's Purple' as we [in the band] call it - it's different enough to warrant a place on the album. I was initially quite concerned with putting too much of the old stuff on this album."
"By the end of the ["House of Blue Light"] tour we had tapes of 20 concerts that we kept...I don't think people want 'perfection' - I think they want the 'magic' of the night, the 'feel' of the night. It doesn't matter if it's out of tune here or there or if they missed a riff. In fact, that adds to it - gives it 'character'. "Made In Japan" was a 100% honest [live] album and this one ["Nobody's Perfect"] is 99.5% [honest]. Iadmit to taking certain segments from one night & sticking it in another show. If we'd gone into the studios with these tapes & overdubbed guitar, drums [or] whatever it took to make it sound super, it wouldn't've been 'true to the faith'. I'm just a great believer that live we're [Deep Purple] at our best. I'd be hypocritical if I overdubbed new vocals or new [instrumental] solos. So I did my utmost to keep the album as honest as possible."
"The best...was recorded in Phoenix; in fact, a lot of the performances come from our shows in Phoenix, which is the night that Ritchie broke his finger & you can actually hear the moment it happens during "Space Truckin'". Because of that, I couldn't use what I considered to be the best version. Nomally when something goes wrong Ritchie is renowned for storming off the stage...this gig, not only did he finish the song, but he came back on & did an encore! That just goes to show that Phoenix was a 'magic' gig for us."
...all above comments from Roger Glover excerpted from an interview titled "Nobody's Purple" authored by Pete Makowski that appeared in Metal Hammer magazine, June 20th, 1988
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Q: What's the difference between "Made In Japan" and "Nobody's Perfect" ?
A: " 'Made In Japan' was done really fast. I'm pleased with the new album ["Nobody's Perfect"] because it shows how the band has improved - it's not like we rehashed 'Made In Japan'. 'Nobody's Perfect' shows what Deep Purple are like 12 years later as far as playing ability goes...on tracks like 'Lazy' the playing is much better. We've learned to play better - at least I hope we have!
Originally we [Deep Purple] were going to go back in the studio & do another studio lp but there was a lot of 'outside' pressure for us to record a live album, promote that & then go into the studio again."
Q: Are you talking about 'pressure' from the record company?
A: "No, there was just a general opinion gathered from conversations with audiences and 'people in the know' that people wanted to hear what we did live. A lot of people wanted to hear new versions of the 'classic' songs so we thought, 'Right, let's do this properly." - Ritchie Blackmore excerpted from an interview titled "Nobody's Purple" authored by Pete Makowski that appeared in Metal Hammer magazine, June 20th, 1988
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Q: Are you talking about 'pressure' from the record company?
A: "No, there was just a general opinion gathered from conversations with audiences and 'people in the know' that people wanted to hear what we did live. A lot of people wanted to hear new versions of the 'classic' songs so we thought, 'Right, let's do this properly."
Ritchie seems easy to put under pressure.
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Thanks Ed, interesting stuff!
I've read that many of the recordings from the tour were half-arsed, with tape runing out in middle of songs, etc. I'm sure Roger had quite a nasty job compiling the material.
The record company reportedly were very brought down when they heard the album for the first time.
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Personally I think the album is utter pish! Some of the new tracks are alright, but all of the older tracks are butchered. I defy anybody to tell me that these versions are better than heard on Made In Japan or In Concert '72!
Gillan's screaming in Space Truckin' is terrible. And the version of Woman From Tokyo is a no-no!
At least on Last Concert In Japan the band had an excuse - heroin, crack and coke!!!
That's my thoughts!
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Personally I think the album is utter pish!
Fair enough.
One question, though...is 'pish' anything like haggis? 
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Some of the new tracks are alright...
Again, fair enough...though as I stated earlier, I personally rate the 'new tracks' as MetalJim1 did & does: definitive live versions.
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...but all of the older tracks are butchered.
I can't agree at all with 'butchered', but that's your take, so again - fair enough.
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I defy anybody to tell me that these versions are better than heard on Made In Japan or In Concert '72!
Okay - these versions (on "Nobody's Perfect") are better than heard on "Made In Japan" or "In Concert '72"! There - happy now?  (I aim to please...though I'm sure you'll recognize the attempt at humor - or at least I hope you recognize it  )
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Gillan's screaming in Space Truckin' is terrible.
Agreed.
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And the version of Woman From Tokyo is a no-no!
Though I wished DPMkII '84/'88 had done full, 'proper' versions of "Woman From Tokyo" live in concert, thier 'truncated' version(s) were still fun to see & hear as far as I was concerned...as a quick aside, years ago I recorded a cassette with the "Nobody's Perfect" version of "Woman From Tokyo" and managed to 'graft' the performance of "Lucille" from "In Concert '72" pretty seamlessly into it so I ended up with what I think is a really nice resultant 'homage' to both Buddy Holly & Little Richard in one fun, rocking 'encore smorgasbord'.
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At least on Last Concert In Japan the band had an excuse - heroin, crack and coke!!!
It seems to me that if one is going to grant 'excuses' for what's (at the end of the day) an inferior performance or release of said inferior performance, then one should be open to granting excuses to what they might consider other inferior performance(s) or release of said inferior performance(s)...in other words, DPMkII '84/'88 were 15 years past & older than they were for either "Made In Japan" or "In Concert '72" with all the commiserate changes that those 15 years of life could & did bring. To me, it's like Glover said, "I was initially quite concerned with putting too much of the old stuff on this album." and I think it was exactly because of the inevitable - and in a lot of ways, unfair - comparisons that were bound to be made. DP just can't win; if newer versions of the 'classic' songs from "Made In Japan" or "In Concert '72" are/were included, it seems a great deal of people would've pre-concluded that those newer versions couldn't possibly be as good as the 'older versions'...if newer versions of the 'classic' songs from "Made In Japan" or "In Concert '72" weren't included, it seems a great deal of people would've pre-concluded that those newer versions couldn't possibly be so good as to merit inclusion on a live album from DP circa the late '80s.
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To me, it's like Glover said, "I was initially quite concerned with putting too much of the old stuff on this album." and I think it was exactly because of the inevitable - and in a lot of ways, unfair - comparisons that were bound to be made.
Fully agree. I'd like to add that for me a key reason the reunion got stale was that they didn't build enough on the new material after the PS tour and likewise, didn't alter the older material they played.
Had PS and HOBL really dominated the set, with the oldies placed here and there in the set, it could have worked better. Having said that, they did play a fair number of tracks from the latest albums on those tours. The same goes for S&M and TBRO tours as well.
For the HOBL tour they did keep PS and KAYBD, but didn't play anything else from PS, and the rest set (the oldies part if you like) was kept the same. Perhaps the formula was wrongly planned in retrospect: a couple of oldies, the new stuff, then to the potpourri-like late part of the show with medleys.
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To me, it's like Glover said, "I was initially quite concerned with putting too much of the old stuff on this album." and I think it was exactly because of the inevitable - and in a lot of ways, unfair - comparisons that were bound to be made.
Fully agree. I'd like to add that for me a key reason the reunion got stale was that they didn't build enough on the new material after the PS tour and likewise, didn't alter the older material they played.
Had PS and HOBL really dominated the set, with the oldies placed here and there in the set, it could have worked better. Having said that, they did play a fair number of tracks from the latest albums on those tours. The same goes for S&M and TBRO tours as well.
For the HOBL tour they did keep PS and KAYBD, but didn't play anything else from PS, and the rest set (the oldies part if you like) was kept the same. Perhaps the formula was wrongly planned in retrospect: a couple of oldies, the new stuff, then to the potpourri-like late part of the show with medleys.
100% agree with you. As usual...
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Hi Ed,
I knew you would respond!
Basically I don't like Nobody's Perfect because it just sounds like a poor imitation of a once great band. I'm a big fan of a band playing to their strengths and this is not an example of that.
The new songs did sound alright, but overall HOBL wasn't that strong an album.
In my opinion, Blackmore and Glover should've stuck with Rainbow and left the DP reunion for another year.
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