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Really? Maybe they control it? I have a friend who, before he ships the birds off, he gives them 2 peanuts, 3 whole corn and several safflowers, along with water from a syringe. All he does is pop in the seed and shut the birds beak, bird does the rest!
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Well, Alan is crop feeding which means he is placing the food directly into their crop, which is shoving it down their throats. Socorro is talking about letting them eat solid food, which is done after they are near wenaing age. But when young, they need to be crop fed.
I hope I got that right! LOL 
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Re: hand raising squabs
That's right. I put it directly in the crop. But I am gentle, I don't "shove" it 
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Re: hand raising squabs
You know what I meant. I know you wouldnt "shove" it down their throats. 
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2/7/2009, 6:59 pm
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Re: hand raising squabs
I know, was just teasing you.
If you "shove" it in far enough you will avoid the wind pipe.
The hard part is doing new hatchlings up to a week old. They are very very delicate and need to be fed 5 times per day
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This is my incubator. You can hatch the eggs in here and you must keep the squabs in here till they are a week old or so. It's set at 100 degrees and has a little water in it for humidity. Once the eggs are a few days from hatching you need to add more water. It has a fan and circulates the air. I date the eggs and ID them by writing on them with a pencil
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Re: hand raising squabs
This is my equipment.
As the squabs grow they are fed with a larger devise.
I use Roudybush Squab Formula for hatchlings up to a week old then gradually wean them over to powdered Pigeon Pellets the next week. The hatchlings need the formula to be about 100 degrees.
You need to be careful to make the right mixture of water and pellets. To little water and they can't digest the pellets. Too much water and they make a mess and don't grow right.
I stuff them till they can't hold anymore. Never had any problems with that method.
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Nice setup. Have more patience then me!
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Re: hand raising squabs
I am a breeder and have a fairly large operation here. I don't raise a lot of birds this way. It's mainly when there's no other way. For instance, many of my Pouters (Gaditano, Laudino, Granadino, Morrillero) need Fosters and there's not always Fosters available so I will incubate the eggs and switch them with an infertile egg under a pair somewhere. Or I will hatch the egg and most of the time I will find a Foster home for it after it hatches. Every egg these Pouters lay is valuable to me because I don't want to wear out the hens, so I place a high value on each egg they do lay. It's not really the production line it looks like. Most of the time the incubator is not running and when it is, it only has a few eggs in it. Rarely do I raise a squab from day one. I don't think I have ever had a Roller in the incubator. They raise their own or they don't live.
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