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sippi3

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I have my yellow Husband cоck on a Buff hen in a 48x24 single mating pen. They have been in it for five months. They have a pair of squeaks now that one appears to be black. I have been watching it for several days as it started getting dark pins instead of light ones.

Would you consider a black out of two Buff phase birds to be a mutation? Or would it just be an anomaly? I will know for sure what color in another three or four days. There is still the possibility of it being a dark Tuffie. The cоck is out of two Buffs and the hen is out of a Buff and yellow. I raised them both in a closed loft of only Husband birds.

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Technically speaking everything but a wild type Blue Bar is a color mutation. But it's very interesting that a Yellow and a Buff can produce a dark colored bird even if it is a Tuff. I would then assume that Buff and Yellow are two different recessives and not both Dilute. I say that because two Dilutes can only produce more Dilutes, they can not produce any non Dilutes. If so, that would most likely mean our original suspicions were correct and there are two recessives at work here, Dilute and Pale. The Yellow being Pale and the Buff being Dilute.

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Once I tried to explain wild type (blue bar or any other fenotype), I useed exzample of "white light" beem going through a prizm and disperse to become rainbow. Inside white light there is renbow and you need prizm or wather or something to modifie it and bring it out. So if blue bar is wild tipe diferent modifiers would bring out diferent color as a part of wide spectrum. You change modifier (almond, dilute, indigo...) it wil bring out diferent part of the same spectrum.

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The squeak has feathered out now and it isnt black as I had hoped. It appears that it will be a silver. That wouldnt be a mutation but rather a throw back from way back. I will get some pics when he feathers out completely.

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I will get a pic of the squeak today. He is either a true silver or a dun. I guess I will have to wait for him to feather out to see. Either way he is a throwback to some long lost relatives.

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Wanna see it. emoticon

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