winter 2009 newsletter questions In the article Logic and the Facts of Classical Almond by K.D. Spurling.page 27. Definition: "Kite Bronze" has had many definitions. For our purposes let's say that it is co-dominant shade of Bronze variously affecting rough and smooth pigment as well as blue areas.
When he says rough and smooth, does that mean the same as coarse spread and smooth spread pigment? Otherwise I don't know what rough and smooth pigment is. Some body help me here!
--- Dennis L. Radi
Idar Lofts
rollerdoneks@skybeam.com
Re: winter 2009 newsletter questions Here is a second comment I have: page 25, Definition: "Kite"....
He says: Kites are pure for T-pattern, pure for Black, pure for kite bronze, pure for Dirty, pure for Sooty and impure for recessive red.
What he is describing there is a good quality dark beaked Spread Black pigeon. To get a so called Classical T-pattern Kite he should of left out pure for Black. If he wants a bird with a clear colored beak he should of included pure for smoky. Then the Albescent strips on the outer tail feathers would be dark like the rest of the tail.
The Spread Black bird he discribed would still be a Classical Kite but masking all basic patterns. The masking effect is called Epistasis. With his statement he doesn't have clear beaked birds. Which I doubt! All he would get from this bird would be 100% Black babies,
like I said before, all American Fehrholz are Kites.
--- Dennis L. Radi
Idar Lofts
rollerdoneks@skybeam.com
Member of the National Pigeon Association, Flying Oriental Roller Society, Horseman Pouter Club of North America, Voorburg Shield Cropper Club and the Tucson Pigeon Club
Re: winter 2009 newsletter questions When he says "Black" I don't think he's talking about Spread. I stumbled over this one too. I believe he's talking about good Black type T-Pattern that is a very dark type of Kite that looks so Black in the tail you can't hardly even see the bar. Isn't this the same type of T-Pattern under Archangels and some of the good Bronze breeds?
Member of the National Pigeon Association, Flying Oriental Roller Society, Horseman Pouter Club of North America, Voorburg Shield Cropper Club and the Tucson Pigeon Club
Re: winter 2009 newsletter questions This article proves my research. In order to have good Classical Almond you need the Verdunkel factor to be present. Verdunkel is what causes the black beaks in the Kites, Blacks and many other colors. The black beaks caused by Verdunkel don't show on the Almonds because the Almond factor washes it out, but it will show on the Kites used to make good Almonds.
The bottom line here is if you breed your birds according to the show OR standard and breed out the black beaks from your stock, you will never have any good classical almonds. That goes for those awesome Bronze Mottles as well. Without the Verdunkel factor, you can kiss them goodbye as well!
Now I know why Mr Fehrholz has kept a lot of black beaks in his loft, despite the fact it's a major fault in the German show standard! Smart man!
Member of the National Pigeon Association, Flying Oriental Roller Society, Horseman Pouter Club of North America, Voorburg Shield Cropper Club and the Tucson Pigeon Club
