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how much to feed
.....how much, weightwise, do you guys feed your orientals?......I feed my birds for about 10 min morning and eve or until the first bird gets a drink of water....but all that food just came up with the same amount that my homers eat and that just did not feel right....
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Re: how much to feed
By measuring cup it is about 1 full cup (8 oz) per 10 birds.Once a day unless you are flying them more than once.If they don't trap in fast enough on that amount,cut it back a little.Newly weaned young birds a little more of course until they are flying.
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Re: how much to feed
Once they are trained I give my kit all they want to eat. The next morning when I release the birds I dump out what feeds left from the day before and give them fresh. Yes they do trap as soon as they land, because they want the fresh stuff. Oh! I do want them to trap fast because I want to fly the next kit. The first kit may fly one to four or so hours (ave. 90 minutes) and if they fly most of the day, then the second kit will need to wait until the next day and go first. I fly separate sexes, usually hens first.
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1/29/2009, 2:58 pm
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Re: how much to feed
They sound pampered.Hmm,they fly that long,eh?Personally,I like my birds (whatever breed) to fly shorter times so as many as possible can get a chance to fly any given day when the conditions are right.I just always feel safer flying them hungry.
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Re: how much to feed
I am with Kelly on this one. It would make me VERY nervous to not have them hungry when I fly. I also want a much shorter flying time. I use a feed tray in the kit box. They only get aprox 10 minutes to eat then the food comes out. Any bird that does not trap in does not eat until next day.
No pampering here LOL
Also….. I hate to leave feed down. It attracts rodents.
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Re: how much to feed
And I'm with Dennis on this one.Once you get them trained they'll come down and trap right in. I like the Fehrholz because they will sky up real high,out of sight some times.From what I've seen in flying them for about 10 years,is that higher = better.In other words,more height=more performance,at least with how I fly them.Andy said when he talked to mr.Fehrholz,he was told that mr. Fehrholz's birds didn't fly anywhere near as high or as long or roll as deep as what Andy described his birds doing.Maybe it had to do with training/feeding methods.I think that OR's are a true highflying/performance breed that are suposed to go up. From what I've seen you don't NEED to monkey with the feed to get them to perform.Take a birm and feed it all it wants.If you can get it to fly,I'll bet the performance will be pretty flat,if you get ANY at all.Sure you can come up with all these fancy feeding schedules,techniques,gimmicks,yo-yoing,etc., but I think that's more for the trainer than the OR(Fehrholz birds anyway) Some guys like to complicate things just because they think you have to(or to be a legend in their own mind). Sure If you want to get an OR to fly for a set comp time,you'll have to cut the feed and I think lose performance. But if you want a comp rolling bird fly some good Birms. If you want a bird to sky up and pull off $hit that a Birm couldn't even think of stick with the ORs.I will say I think that what you feed has a way bigger impact on performance than how much  I've flown quite a few breeds of flying performing birds and out of all of them,to me,it looks like ORs actually enjoy what they are doing in the air much more than any of the others. Just my 2 cents,take it or leave it.
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Re: how much to feed
I was sitting back and waiting for the comments to come in. The Fehrholz Flying Oriental Rollers: has been stated in the past that they are not BR or any other flying breed that you have flown. They are high flyers and do their best up high. I have tried cutting their feed back and then you will loose the performance, just the opposite of BR. Bill Tietze told me when he gave me the FORS to forget about BR's and give these as much feed as they wants to eat. They don't always fly sky high, but it all depends on the weather. I am retired and I can sit for hours and watch my birds and try different feed methods and my current system is what the birds like.
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Re: how much to feed
I feed mine all they will eat in ten or so minutes. They will trap in immediatly upon landing. I feed one third cup per three birds. A scoop more when it is cold per kit box.
This is just for kit birds, I feed my breeders free choice when they have young. OR's definitely dont have to be starved to perform. They do perform well on the yo-yo method though. I tried it last year just to see.
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Re: how much to feed
All good input here.Lot's of different opinions on this subject.Seems to me I'll have to experiment with what works best with these Husband strain I have.The young ones I have in the kitbox now sure seem alot more hungry than my BRs.
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