Perigrine attack I had a kit of Fehrholts up today about five hundred feet. There wasnt any clouds at all. A peri came out of the blue in full stoop and locked on my black hen. The hen barrel rolled and dove to the hard deck. I was laying in my recliner and they came down so fast I didnt even have time to get up. They went by the loft like Husbands do instead of Fehrholts. When she went by me, about twenty feet, she was flying so hard her wings made a noise like the old Cobra chopper props used to make off in the distance except a lot faster and not as loud. I have never heard one make that noise before. When they leveled out she blew the socks off the Peri and was back in the kit rolling in two minutes.
Re: Perigrine attack I had the same thing today I had six up at about 500 feet and here he came full dive the kit stayed togeather until it was about 2 feet from them and they exploded in all directions one black came down to the loft and in in about 5 seconds a yellow came down into a tree about 100 yards from the loft the peri was wright on it until it was in the tree it went back up and took another swipe at the four birds still in the air they were out of sight in 10 seconds and the peri just went flying off with it's tail between it's legs. About 15 minutes later I could see the four birds again coming down rolling and having a good time. The yellow that went into the tree came back about an hour later not a feather missing on any bird.
Re: Perigrine attack I never thought I'd actually be looking forward to seeing the henery going after my birds but the accounts you guys give has me doing just that!I want to see that SOB humiliated.
--- Kelly Waugh
Rum:30 Lofts
Gabriola Island,B.C.,
Canada.
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Re: Perigrine attack I wonder how smart they are. I fear that my local peregrines will quickly learn the difference between the FOR's and the Birmingham's. The FORs will fly in smaller kits with a different wing beat. It seems to me that it would not take them very long to not fly over for the small kit.
But the big kits………..
Re: Perigrine attack I wonder how smart they are. I fear that my local peregrines will quickly learn the difference between the FOR's and the Birmingham's. The FORs will fly in smaller kits with a different wing beat. It seems to me that it would not take them very long to not fly over for the small kit.
But the big kits………..
Re: Perigrine attack Keith I dont think they can distinuish different breeds. That is the whole idea of condition the resident raptors. The "learn" it isnt worth the effort to try after awhile. I took me close to two years to get them that way here.
One thing they can distinguish is squeaks. I have a resident male coopers that will strike squeaks any time I drop my guard.
I started flying against raptors originally to protect my Birms. Now I just do it for fun, but it still has the same effect as I havnt had my Birms hit but one time this year. That was by a traveling migrant that didnt know any better.
Re: Perigrine attack Sipi,
Did you lock down the Birms during the "training" process?
My going in position is to fly the FORs first, to pick up any BOP hanging around, then fly the Birms if the cost is clear. If the BOP get a Birm then lock them down and only fly FORs for a week. This is where I get concerned that I may be "teaching" the BOP what to look for.
I believe that I am within eyesight of a peregrine nest location.
Re: Perigrine attack If you attempt to settle FORs within eye sight of a peregrine nest location, I would be afraid you will loose a lot of birds due to over flies from attacks during the settling process. Due to that reason I try and settle birds during the off season for the Hawks. But I guess each situation is unique. I have to deal with Coopers hawks ambushing from the close trees, I don't have any Peregrines. Picture this... the first time outside I have a dozen nervous squeekers and a Coopers attacks from the trees. There's birds scattered everywhere and half don't come back because they get lost. It's happened to me many times.
Member of the National Pigeon Association, Flying Oriental Roller Society, Horseman Pouter Club of North America, Voorburg Shield Cropper Club and the Tucson Pigeon Club
Re: Perigrine attack I think they can tell the difference in the breeds of pigeons.When I flew birms the coops would fly right by a bunch of bridge rats on the powerlines to come get some veal.I'm with Alan, I think if you try to get young bird going near a nest,they're going to give you a very hard time.The males are hunting machines when the chicks hatch. Nick
--- Nick Grzywacz
grzywacznkl@aol.com
"I hope he doesn't catch that black mottle.....AWH $%*%!!!!"
Re: Perigrine attack Keith when I first started this I flew the OR's first and then the Birms. I would sometimes fly two or three kits of OR's. Then fly the Birms. I flew them even when the OR's got hit. I have seen a cooper just tire of trying and sit and watch while I flew another kit.
