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Gaditano

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Oh OK... Flatheadfisher is Michael A, not Michael E.. that's why I didn't know.

Sorry, I don't have the video camera.

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Alan,
Do you fly any FOR's.I just read that you had mentioned somewhere about the heat and the birds won't fly.I don't recall you mentioning anything about flying any kits presently or last year or so. just curious, what you do fly,what kind and how many?
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Of course I fly birds. I only have Fehrholz and Husband Tuffies. It's not hot 24 hours a day here. We need to fly our birds in the morning before 10 AM.

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Camcorders are not expensive.Sorry about E instead of A for Michael.I fly my birds any time of the day.If is hot for them they will come down sooner,and flying at different times of the day I confuse hawks a little bit.
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I would too if I didn't live in the desert of southern Arizona. It's 105 degrees everyday during the summer. Sure, it's a dry heat but the birds still won't fly very much in it. There are no Hawks here to worry about in the summer.

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Than you can fly as early as 8 am.That would be perfect no humidity and no hawks.I have both loots of hawks and humidity trough the summer.And I still fly all young.5 minutes or two hours, better than nothing.That way I can call my birds proven performers,becouse they fly and perform all summer long.
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Alan,
Last week i received compliments on my birds from 3 flyers from Atlanta.They want to get into FOR's and i told them i got 90% of my birds from you as squeekers or youngsters, all unproven and have flown and bred out of them.They asked me how many birds do you fly and do you compete with your birds.I didn't know the answers so i told thim to write you directly as not to give out wrong imfo.That is the reason for my inquiry.
They were extremely impressed with my #1 kit of Fehrholts[08's] until they flew out of sight.One man said it reminded him of many years ago when he flew longevity tipplers that would disappear all day but without all the acrobatics.I took that as a great compliment.The birds[#1 KIT] were back in view after about 20 minutes and they was amazed at how fast they came down out of nowhere to the white fantails i use for droppers.i laughed and made like i knew what i was doing.They don't always do that but im sure glad they put on a good show for them.
I also[like Amir] fly my birds at different times of the day except on sundays where everyone gets a bath,chance to fly, & plenty of exercise.Today i had 57 birds in the air going every which way & almost all returned to the proper kit boxs.The youngsters are flown by themselves and still in training[13].Mornings are the best time to fly but the BOP's are hungrier then, so i choose late afternoons mostly.The BOP's arent a threat in fact they help get some lazy birds flying.
thanks for the reply.


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BILL,
What color do you call your avitar pictured bird? and what line is it out of? mine was a younmgster which i shipped out last week to friend along with 9 others.They all were showing much potential and i didn't know what color to call that 1 particular bird.FOR's come in many new colors from the colors im use to saying and having but i have no complaints about any of them.they seem to be very unique to me.
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Mike,
I’m not really sure what color to call this bird. As you say these Orientals come in SO many different color variations. Dale calls him a Blue Bronze. (Because of the base color, being from the blue group in pigeons.) I think of him as more of a Silver Bronze myself. He is one of Dales “Tuff & Buff” line of birds. Which of course makes him from the Kurdistan strain. As you can see from his head type….
I’m like so many pigeon people, I’ve given up trying to use the technically genetic color names for these birds. It’s TOO involved for my old brain to keep up with. Like Dale calling some of his birds ‘Buffs’. To me many of them are much closer to a buff color, than the technical color of ‘yellow’. Because they are the dilute from the ‘red’ group. I’m sorry…, I just get lost in all that color stuff. I just try to call’em as I see’em. But of course different lighting for a camera and PC monitors, can also make a big difference in the coloring of what we see a bird to be also.
Here’s a couple of larger pics, to give you a better look at him.


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It's a nice looking Tuff. Genetically it's a Blue Bar Smoky Ember.

Bill, there's no need to give up on color genetics. Take it one step at a time, that's why we are putting the Genetics 101 series in the bulletin. If you were following it, you could have the base knowledge down by now. You can never learn it all at once. In fact, you can never learn it all in a lifetime. But you don't need to learn it all.

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