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The united states reluctantly took the role of 'world police' fallowing the end of the second world war era. their were no other national powers absent russia who were capable of nation building. europe was completely destroyed.
and china was hardly even developed, both countries were industrially and economically inadequate.
American interventionism was the only viable option otherwise world order would have likely spiraled in to a state of feudalism, anarchism or sub-modern tribalism. the bottom line is absent comprehensive intervention.
be it through the russians or the americans, civilization would have declined in to a new dark age...
 the first part. I don't know about reluctantly tho. The "USA" realized great economic value by rebuilding Europe 
A doubt that a new dark age would have befallen civilization. Let us take the German example after WWI. Should the USSR or USA not have intervened. The same conditions were present that spawned a nation to look at any and all hopes for salvation. So I add to the list despotism.
on sub-modern tribalism, perhaps another thread can discuss the impact of global culture and the quest for modern ethnic identity as it impacts national allegiance/culture.
i agree. but i don't think its accurate to use WWI vs. WWII scenarios because they were two distinct wars fought in two different eras. WWI was fought and had ended before the league of nations had been conceptualized or let alone implemented. the LoN established global laws and standards, monetary systems and policy, doctrines and rules etc. my point is that from the early 1900's, immediately fallowing WWI, to the mid 1900's, fallowing WWII, the nation-state had become increasingly globalized and irreversibly interoperable and interdependent on one another. fallowing WWII all nation-states had to be aligned with a super power for their own survival, be it the U.S.S.R. or the U.S.A. with respects to global order and its sustainability, the super power(s) were, and still are, indispensable.
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also, the term 'dark age' is referring to a global society without a principle power to establish or implement global law. this doesn't mean civilization will recourse to tribalism, feudalism or anarchism etc. but history does tell you...
that without a lead player, civilization, with respects to living standards, will almost always decline...
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whats the use contemplating the political semantics behind the establishment of a world government if, presumably, we're all ultimately powerless...
all this banter serves nothing useful to the table relatively, except maybe if yall just wanna flex ya intellectu-nuts.
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the first part. I don't know about reluctantly tho. The "USA" realized great economic value by rebuilding Europe 
