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420caddy wrote:

really? artramp im not being sarcastic when I say its nice to talk without ego. I'm looking forward to talking with you though, see if I cant convince you you're wrong. Arguably wrong, at least.

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Physical:
Any entities which are composed of matter and/or energy, as well as the physical properties of those entities...
A physical property is any aspect of an object or substance that can be measured or perceived
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Yes. A physical property is a property that is physical.

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Matter:
 the substance of which a physical object is composed b : material substance that occupies space, has mass, and is composed predominantly of atoms consisting of protons, neutrons, and electrons, that constitutes the observable universe, and that is interconvertible with energy
a : the indeterminate subject of reality; especially : the element in the universe that undergoes formation and alteration b : the formless substratum of all things which exists only potentially and upon which form acts to produce realities
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dictionary.com
physical: (most relevant explanation)
of or pertaining to that which is material: the physical universe; the physical sciences
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Merriam Webster
having material existence : perceptible especially through the senses and subject to the laws of nature <everything physical is measurable by weight, motion, and resistance — Thomas De Quincey>
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Now, I know I'm arguing semantics but bear with me. You see you've made the assumption that because the merriam webster dictionary described material existence as perceptible through the senses, it meant whatever was percieved by the senses would thereby be physical.

And the quincey quote, again, backwards. everything physical is measurable. But that does not say that everything measurable is physical. Acceleration is measurable, time is measurable. These things are not physical.

No, gravity, light and sound do not have a material existence.

Language is not heard, seen or written. Semantics again. Speech is heard. Words and characters are seen and written. Language is the code that we all agree on to make these things all make sense. Invisible? Maybe. You see the only way you could see a whole language, all of the words and all the grammar and all the nouns, vowels, the correct spelling vs corresponding sounds, is if you, get this, wrote it down.

Now I'll go off on a tangent a little but... assuming its a new language, as in one you don't understand; you're not actually seeing it written either. Its not really writing, its a picture. And a picture you can't understand at that. Its all squiggly lines and bullcrap. None of it has any meaning. Now how do you learn this new language? By translating.

By translating to what you ask? Why, to your own ...language? Alright, so... go ask a baby how he learned to understand english. Oh, can't. Don't remember. Thats not to say people don't just learn from scratch, but of course everyone already has the basics down once they've learned to understand a single language, they've got the learning patterns. Don't need to remember those, they're subliminal.

Some people believe language is a virus from space. I could relate to that, being that space is really just a big misunderstood nothing. Language is shared thrughout the globe, it breaches the gaps of species'. Ants somehow talk to eachother, probably with antennae-phones or somesuch. Crows speak to each other about specific people, they can even pick them out of crowded parks. Dolphins learned fragmented english, (nobody learned dolphinese, sorry Carlin). Its codes, and faith in the understanding of the same code in others, that makes the world work the way it does.

Hell, homeostasis could be part of a geological language. In laymans terms, parts of the earth talking. Without words.

Thanks Yo

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artramp wrote:

just because you can't see a thing doesn't mean it lacks physicality.

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