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posticon FOR THIS IRAQI, IT'S THANK YOU BUSH !



"Only two entities could have saved Iraq from Saddam: God or the Americans. And God did not listen to our prayers."

IN a country where you hear the persistent chant "The Americans are no good. The Americans must leave Iraq," it comes as a big surprise to meet 45-year-old Anwaar, who teaches management at the University of Technology and Management in the Zafaraniya locality of Baghdad.

"The Americans are good for two reasons: First, because they got rid of Saddam Hussein, and second, because they have provided safety and security for the people of Baghdad," she says.

Anwaar has enough reason to be grateful to the Americans. "During Saddam's regime, I used to get a paltry 13,000 Dinars. But now the Americans are paying teachers with my experience about 300,000 Dinars, which is equivalent to about $160." It's a whopping hike, indeed, and the salary is considered a princely sum in Baghdad today. The lecturer, who is single, drives a car of her own; and petrol in this oil-rich country is cheap... if you can get it at the gas station and at the official rate of 50 Dinars a litre. "But it is being sold in the black market by the gas station owners," she says.
For something as simple as filling up her tank, she often needs the help of American soldiers. "When they are there at the gas station, I can fill up my car at the official rate. But if they are not there, the station owner shouts at us to join the long queue. And by the time your turn comes, you will find the `no stock' sign. The stock is then taken to the black market and sold at five times its original price."

Another reason for which Anwaar and her neighbours are grateful to the Americans is the unearthing of an ammunition depot in their neighbourhood. "Saddam Hussein had kept a huge amount of ammunition here. But someone tipped the Americans and they came and cleared the whole place. Had a single lighted matchstick been thrown in that place, the whole area would have blown up, killing — Allah alone knows — how many innocent people."

She insists that things are much better in Baghdad and the situation is improving by the day. "Even you can go around safely in Baghdad; just avoid going out at nights and be very careful about your purse. But otherwise, Baghdad is a safe place, particularly for women like me."

When quizzed on the shortage of food, oil and power, she says, "Believe me, things are getting better. I think that more than food, security and safety are important. If you are afraid, can you eat?"

She recalls with a shudder the horrific times under Saddam Hussein. "He was a tyrant of the worst kind. Nobody can imagine how bad he was. Let me give you an example. Under the `Food for Oil' programme, we used to get supplies of medicines, some of it meant for the sick children in our hospitals. But Saddam would seize the supplies andinstruct paediatric departments or children's hospitals that the medicine should not be given to the children and they should be allowed to die. He would order that once 20 children were dead, their janazas (coffins) should be taken out together so the world could be led to believe that these children were being killed due to the UN sanctions on Iraq. He was heartless. Loads of expired medicines would be thrown away instead of treating sick children. That is why I would like to say: Thank you Mr Bush for getting rid of Saddam."

She adds that in her university each and every student had to compulsory enrol as a member of the Baath party, and the chief administrators were always Sunnis. "For the first time under the Americans, we were allowed to vote and I voted for a Sunni, even though I am a Shia, because he was an able and efficient administrator."

Anwaar is sore at the Iraqis who curse the Americans. "There were only two entities who could have saved Iraq from Saddam: God or the Americans. God did not listen to our prayers. But the Americans came and got rid of him. I would like to ask how many Arab countries came forward to help us? On the contrary, Syria, Egypt and even Iran to a certain extent helped Saddam because they wanted to do business with Iraq."

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Re: FOR THIS IRAQI, IT'S THANK YOU BUSH !


"and second, because they have provided safety and security for the people of Baghdad," she says.

strange...most personal accounts iv heard describe iraq as far more dangerous and less safe than before. irag is a damn warzone, and that is not a safe enviornment at all

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Sucessful Elections. Man it made me feel so good to see the pictures of Iraqis dancing in the street celebrating thier Freedom. It made me feel so damn good inside I didnt even need a blunt this morning, Just flipped on the TV, I mean even Liberal CNN was showing clips of dancing iraqis. Now this is true freedom, and that you can not debate. Democracy has spoken. Hands down.
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strange...most personal accounts iv heard describe iraq as far more dangerous and less safe than before. irag is a damn warzone, and that is not a safe enviornment at all



Havent You f FIGURED it out yet you watch 1 sided media!


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Archemtics You are a victim of the system, They (Mainstream Media CNN,MSNBC,BBC,CBS) brainwashed and Influence Through thier Power They sabotage from within. They will make you believe thier philosophy. My advice to you is to Turn off youre lying TV and go talk to an Iraqi. Theyll tell you. Freedom has spoken in that region. I mean im a happy muthafucha and im not even Iraqi. Im just happy for them. Discearn from the Media Arch" Dont let it fool ya.
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" QUOTE "

DahuiHawaii wrote:

Havent You f FIGURED it out yet you watch 1 sided media!



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(Mainstream Media CNN,MSNBC,BBC,CBS)



hey well what about fox's bill o'reillys chart topping ratings.... fox is just as unilateral.

its not everyday in america, where we have a democracy, that people and blowing themselves up in car bombs and threatening to boycott elections.

All of the news is all owned by corporations anyway. It's all about their money, after all... your information about the world takes the back burner.



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I dont watch the news period. I do my own resaerch and make my own conclusions, That of no other man but mine. Epic.

All news is byist thats what makes it news.
No one can report they mix influence with reporting and the cesorship dictates the truth.
I mean ill admit If I had to watch a Broadcast it would be Fox, only becuase the rest are proven Liberal Leaning.
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dude, in my opinion the BBC is a whole lot more objective than all the american channels, im not just being a english kid being protective of aunty beeb, but from what iv seen it is. as for people being fooled into thinking iraq is unsafe,im not to show how one can put spin on daily carbombs you know.as for these free elections, there are litterally hundreds of candidates, and the average iraqi can notpossibly not know what they all stand for, and so vote for who they are told to by thier religious leaders, who of course have thier own bias.

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I'm skeptical of the news in general.

when i was living in the US, i watched the BBC world news.



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Re: FOR THIS IRAQI, IT'S THANK YOU BUSH !


Loccsta you said before:

"...It made me feel so damn good inside I didnt even need a blunt this morning, Just flipped on the TV, I mean even Liberal CNN was showing clips of dancing iraqis."

Then you said in regards to Archemitis:

"I dont watch the news period. I do my own resaerch and make my own conclusions, That of no other man but mine. Epic."

Is this not a contradiction Loccsta?

Loccsta you say you do your own research but where does your own research come from?

Look at the 5 media conglomerates. Everything else is a sub-company to these ones and it is these ones and other groups that regulate what is and is not shown and how it is shown to us Americans.

How do you know that those dancing Iraqis aren't just a small portion of the whole that the news decided to show us so that we would come to their desired conclusion and think that America is doing the right thing?

Could this be?

Another thing on the side. I do not see how we can know if the decisions that are being made are good or bad if we do not figure out one important question:

Other than 'to live', what is the purpose of life? The question is not what makes you happy because that varies, but overall why does any individual do as they do?

If we do not answer this question, we will never quite be on the same page.




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