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Re: transformers halloween costumes
Ok thanks Mark and DancinFool, I will have to wait until he gets back from his dad's on Sunday to continue. But I will keep you guys informed.
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Re: transformers halloween costumes
Would trapezoiding the chest help? You could make the jeep front slightly longer and narrower, then join it to the front of the costume using cardboard pieces which are not *quite* rectangular. If they're cleverly colored, it's quite easy to gain a little extra distortion toward the ideal shape, without it being immediately obvious.
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Re: transformers halloween costumes
As TenelKa would say:
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Like this? Not sticking out quite as far though. I like it. But what do you mean joining it with pieces not quite rectangular? I figure it should glue right on with some liquid nails 
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Re: transformers halloween costumes
Pretty much, yeah. The non-rectangular cardboard bits would be used if you did want the chest to stick out a fair bit. A projecting chest does allow the front to be a bit wider, to the point where it would interfere with shoulder movement if it didn't project out. Plus, Hound has a pretty deep chest anyway - I was imagining a costume with similar proportions, which would include plenty of room for light-up electronics. (Running a control circuit to the palm and middle finger of each glove could let the kid flash the chest lights using a Spiderman-type hand action. (Alternative: middle finger and thumb.) Engine "vroom!" sounds are optional, heh.)
In this scenario, the non-rectangular bits of cardboard would be the top, bottom and sides of the chest projection. They're non-rectangular (trapezoidal) because the headlight-and-grille ensemble (the chest 'front panel') does not exactly match the proportions of the wearer's chest. The top and bottom panels would widen towards the front. The side panels would get narrower towards the front.
True, exaggerating this deformation a lot will make the costume look like it was designed for Dolly Parton or a Madonna video. This technique won't carry the costume on its own, but it's a way to almost invisibly tweak the proportions of the front panel just that little bit closer to the ideal.
Hound's distinctive front panel, with the vertical grille lines, silver/white/flashing headlights, and projecting fenders and bumper, make it ideal for drawing attention away from the dark green (and rather plain) hood, the fendered chest sides, and anything that's going on _under_ the chest projection.
Given that it's a child's costume, most adults will be looking down on it anyway, and kids will look at the face and visually interesting jeep front. This means the underside of the chest projection can have dark green or matte black components that attach/extend almost to the child's waist, where the costume can resume. Add a winch to the front of the chest projection for extra visual distraction.
It depends on what costume creators are most comfortable working with - cardboard, cloth/lycra, lights and batteries, speakers and sound chips, paint, contact adhesive, styrofoam, thermal glue, varnish spray for the metallic sheen, etc etc. There's always a hundred different ways to do things, and each costume is unique.
Which reminds me - what will the victim, er, costume wearer be doing for face/headgear? Modified cheap yellow sunglasses with blocky nose piece, silver makeup, styrofoam chin piece, baseball cap with styrofoam or balsa buildup? Yellow LEDs or Photon Microlights behind the sunglasses? (I wonder if anyone's ever used phosphorescent plastic with a blacklight? Or light sheets?)
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7/11/2004, 11:35 am
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WoW! Information overload!  I appreciate it. Gives me a lot to think about. As for the mask I would like something toon accurate. Keep the shape of the helmet and do a white paper face with cellophane eyes. But I'm thinking since it's for the little one, we may need to use makeup or possibly make the mask anyway and use it for school/party.
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Re: transformers halloween costumes
well for a young child makeup would be the best ...also just a small idea try to make the lights of the jeep light-up it always work in crowd 
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7/16/2004, 7:21 pm
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Re: transformers halloween costumes
Oh, that reminds me -
If you're going with white makeup, you can draw in Hound's facial edges with black texta (not too wide). A thinner dark grey works better face to face, but a thicker black will show up better on photos. It really depends on what will be the larger audience. You may even want to try the grey first, and then overwrite it in a darker shade if the grey isn't visible under about the same lighting as the costume will be worn in.
If you really want to go the whole hog with the face edges, preprepared strips of spirit gum with a triangular cross-section can sit under the makeup, and have a black texta line along their edge. The edges stand out more when there's directional lighting (spotlights, street lights, torches), but your five-year-old may not want to get that fiddly. Besides, spirit gum can feel weird if a kid isn't used to it.
For the mask approach, the guys who made the Power Rangers Megazord-bot were thinking of trying thin spandex in a bright (maybe neon/dayglo) color for the eyes. It reflects the appropriate color well, the wearer can see through it, and it doesn't fog up like plastic lenses. I think it would work well for well-lit areas, but I'm not sure about in the dark.
I have to agree with Mark about the headlights. Costumes with lights automatically get all the attention. Make sure the kid has some kind of control for them, even if it's just a concealed on-off switch on the chest. Another option might be a three-level off-dim-bright slider, or a way to make the lights flash.
There's some interesting lighting choices discussed at http://www.culttvman.com/lights.html. Although they mainly apply to modelling, most of the ideas would also work for a robot costume.
(Note to self: I wonder if running glowstring along the edges of a costume would give a wireframe effect in the dark?)
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Re: transformers halloween costumes
also for fantastic lights effect if you find a place to add them are fiber optics...blue led,s get instant attention also strobes lights... if you feel adventurous you could make the hood pup-up and have an engin-lights inside....that reminds me thoses are all components in my next halloween costume test omega supreme... also a voice modifier with an amplifier and big speakers are on my list for omega as well as working claws and special pop-up canons on the side of omega main arm gun ah !!! god i cant wait to get started on this lol
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Re: transformers halloween costumes
haven't posted for a while, I've been hard at work on my optimus costume, I've got the doors opening on the chest setup with buttons, and the matrix chamber opening up, its all powered by 3 motors I bought from radioshack and 8 c batteries, now I'm just finishing the details on the chest then I can get going on the rest of the costume. How goes everyone elses halloween costumes, only 3 months away  can it be so soon
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I'm still collecting materials and looking for a job at the same time. Design is almost complete just gotta paint, cut and paste. and then work in the lights
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