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England beat France
England beat France...in the Rugby World Cup semi-final yesterday!!! The sour and humourless Frenchies will be moaning and blubbing into their garlic-drenched 'food' again- nice one, lads (or should that be "Oot, oot"?)
And today we remember the great king Harold Godwinson, and not the fat usurping and greedy bastard Billythe coasthugger- who inexplicably didn't move on an 'open' London or Winchester...for three weeks after invading.
Godwinson! Godwinson!
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Re: England beat France
Ironaxes:
I'm sure the WRTF will have something to say about tomorrow, though. . . .
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Re: England beat France
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mousteriana wrote:
Ironaxes:
I'm sure the WRTF will have something to say about tomorrow, though. . . .
Anne G
LOL. Who cares, they rant on in their dumb and arrogant Frankish fascistic internet "style" regardless of fact or opposing views...
Godwinson, Godwinson...
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Re: England beat France
Housecarl:
Let's bow our heads for a moment of silence in his honor.
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Re: England beat France
We all had a minutes silence for those who fell in 1066 yesterday at Senlac.
Is it me though who thinks that the commentator at the re-enactment shows a distinct bias towards the claims of Billy The Fat for the throne of England.
Notably when talking of Harold's deathbed conversation with Eddy the Weak.
He also omits any mention of the Witan and of the distinct lack of opposition to Harold within England.
Perhaps it is me!
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Re: England beat France
Athelstan:
It's possible the commentator was handed a "script". These things happen. If that was the case, then it is the "scriptwriter" who is at fault, not the commentator. But somebody should have known that the Witan was the final decidionmaker about who would be King of England after "Eddy the Weak". Plus, if Edward designated Harold his hair on his deathbed, somebody should have known that this also had the force of law in the England of that time. Oh, and there were witnesses, as well.
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Re: England beat France
Athelstan937,Mousteriana,minute's silence is a good idea even though the opposition fought for an ignoble cause led by an ignoble leader.If the commentator is showing "bias" then an attempt is being made to set the record straight against a barrage of misinformation and prejudice spanning centuries.A grain of sand in a desert springs to mind.Our Forum believes the people who carry out those reenactments have a good sense of history in wanting to relive it in a landscape which bears about as much resemblance to that of 1066 as the M62 does to a Roman road.Long may their event continue as it has done since at least 1976 when the ownership of the site was at stake.
Edward the Confessor a weak king? Again because of his Norman links, he has steadily got a bad press down the centuries.In 1051,he was "weak" enough to give the Godwin clan the boot into exile.And Godwin and his clan went like lambs so what does that make them? The fact of the matter was that they did not have sufficient support in Angleland to face the Confessor down and they knew it.The reason was simple.The days of the Cnutian ascendancy were long dead.They were relics from a past that had been shaken off due to the incompetence of Harthacnut and Harold Harefoot.It was their refusal to come to terms with that fact which in part led to the Sons Of Aelfgar,the key leaders in Northumbria and Mercia, becoming increasingly suspicious of their motives(Tostig becoming the most obvious expression of that, see our Forum's posting on him for all major relevant data) and ultimately of course withdrawing support for the Usurper by refusing to commit themselves or their forces to fight at Stamford Bridge or Senlac.
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Re: England beat France
And the rugby stuff is as out of date(almost) as the Godwins were in 1051 and 1066.The bloke who kicked the goals that won the final for the South Africans was Percy Montgomery and the other one who kicked a goal for them was Francois Steyn.Are those names familiar? Sometimes sporting triumphalism can boomerang,wouldn't you say?
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And the rugby stuff is as out of date(almost) as the Godwins were in 1051 and 1066.The bloke who kicked the goals that won the final for the South Africans was Percy Montgomery and the other one who kicked a goal for them was Francois Steyn.Are those names familiar? Sometimes sporting triumphalism can boomerang,wouldn't you say?
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WRTF:
Yeah. Edward "the Confessor" *was* a weak king, believe it or not, despite his Norman ties. And apparently he didn't even *like* the Normans all that much! He mainly ended up there becaue of his mother Emma, and for a long time, IIRC, nobody even *expected* he would rule. Once he returned to England, he (a) proceded to marry Edith, whose brother, as you may well know, was Harold Godwinson. Whether the Godwin family "coerced" him into it or not, I don't know. He didn't like Edith very much and it seems quite odd to me that they never bothered to have children. He blamed Edith and Edith blamed him. Wonderful, loving couple!!!!-D He relied pretty heavily on the Godwin family for counsel and advice, only throwing them out, basically in a fit of tantrum, when they tried to intervene on behalf of the people of Dover, against *Normans* who apparently took offense at being what they considered ill-treated. He *tried* to banish Edith to a convent on the grounds that he was (supposedly) going to get rid of her, but thanks to her connections, he couldn't even do that! This was a strong king???????
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WilliamtheRed Forum1 wrote:
Edward the Confessor a weak king? Again because of his Norman links, he has steadily got a bad press down the centuries.In 1051,he was "weak" enough to give the Godwin clan the boot into exile.And Godwin and his clan went like lambs so what does that make them? The fact of the matter was that they did not have sufficient support in Angleland to face the Confessor down and they knew it.The reason was simple.The days of the Cnutian ascendancy were long dead.They were relics from a past that had been shaken off due to the incompetence of Harthacnut and Harold Harefoot.It was their refusal to come to terms with that fact which in part led to the Sons Of Aelfgar,the key leaders in Northumbria and Mercia, becoming increasingly suspicious of their motives(Tostig becoming the most obvious expression of that, see our Forum's posting on him for all major relevant data) and ultimately of course withdrawing support for the Usurper by refusing to commit themselves or their forces to fight at Stamford Bridge or Senlac.
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