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Oxford DNB on Henry I
All:
For those interested(and I suspect there might be a few here), the Oxford DNB Life of the Day is Henry I. It was written by Warren Hollister, who wrote a biography of Henry I. Anyway, if you like, you can read it here:
http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/lotw/1.html
Dunno why Henry I should be the Life of the Day on December 1, but in any case here it is.
Anne G
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12/1/2007, 7:55 pm
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Re: Oxford DNB on Henry I
That's because Beauclerc died on that date Anne G in 1135.The search engine on the site is hopeless. You enter Henry 1 and get Henry V111 and Henry 111 but no Beauclerc.
The Hollister biog is good on detail but written by someone in awe of Beauclerc and his counter-revolutionary role.Hollister died before completing it so chunks of it are written by co-thinkers and are supposed conclusions flowing from his surviving text.
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Re: Oxford DNB on Henry I
Rob and WRTF:
Thank you for informing me that Henry I died on December I. I honestly had forgotten that(though I'm sure I read it somewhere). The Oxford DNB isn't perfect, but the biographies are in sufficient detail, so that you start with something you can work from. As for Hollister, he was one of the few modern historians who actually wrote anything about Henry I, who was, after all, an important figure, whether or not he was a "counter-revolutionary". You may recall, if you read that material carefully(and I read some DNB material about William "Rufus", too, which I printed out), Hollister admits that Henry carried out many of his brother's policies. And unlike Hollister, I think he may have had a hand in, or at least some motive for, what happened to William "Rufus". There's no absolute proof, in any case.
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12/15/2007, 7:53 pm
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Re: Oxford DNB on Henry I
Ah yes, the boringdumbmoron"forum" desperately defending the undefendable...(then tootling off into their apt silence for a few weeks whilst boring the other geeks in Southern English pubs...if he/she's old enough?)
...Henry I correctly arranging to get rid of the embarrasing GAY stammering odd-eyed disaster, GayBilly2- (the only gay in the village!)
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Re: Oxford DNB on Henry I
Housecarl:
There's no absolute proof that Henry I did his brother in. Although, as I said, he probably had enough motivation, one way or another. One thing I cansay with some certainty is, that he was very unlikely to have thought himself to be a "revolutionary" or a "counter-revolutionary", either. He may, for all we know, just have thought something was getting out of hand, and "something" had to be done! One possible motivation here may have been that some of Willaim "Rufus's" associates may have been getting entirely too powerful. But that's only a guess on my part.
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Maybe, but odd how Henry failed to hunt down the perpetrator/s of his hated gay brother's death, after having immediately dashed to seize the treasury and crown?
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Housecarl:
I'm not suggesting he didn't have a hand in it, just that there's no "absolute" proof. Certainly, his pardon of Walter Tirel sort of makes one wonder(especially if one assumes that Tirel was the man who "did the job"). As I say, he seems to have had enoough motivation, of one sort or another. In modern "police work", that would certainly make him a suspect, or at least someone the police would want to question.
Of course, since he was Henry I, nobody could do this, nor would they have wanted to.
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