steve67
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carp care
its nice to see a new member catch his personal best at broom in the weekly news but it would have been better to see the carp on an unhooking mat.
you should'nt be fishing for specimens if you hav'nt got the gear to look after them..
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20/7/09, 19:04
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Re: carp care
Steve, from what I have been led to believe he was actually float fishing for silver fish, hence the spoon net, and not targeting specimen carp. He was just fortunate that it picked up his bait.
Whilst I appreciate your comments about putting fish on unhooking mats, I use one even for Chub, Tench and Bream, not just Carp, at least he placed it on grass and not on a really hard/course surface.
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22/7/09, 6:58
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yes he placed it on the grass which is too short and bent its front fin over too very clever got a reply for that how about just putting it back straight away if havnt got the right gear rather than putting on the floor for a pic
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5/8/09, 16:05
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Re: carp care
Having checked the rules it is noted that reference is made to 'anglers targeting larger species should use unhooking mats.'
Clearly if this chap is going for the silver fish and this lump comes along, the chances are that he won't have a mat with him.
A thought though - Lets try to look at this positively; Whats happened has happened and there is nothing we can do about it. We have got to assume the fish has been returned to the water, and swum away none too worse for its encounter.
To prevent such instances happening again, are you suggesting we should look to introduce a rule that states ALL anglers should be in possession of and be ready to use an unhooking mat irrespective of the species they are targeting?
As Andyk74 has mentioned it's not just carp that are at risk here. Big roach (1lb+) are becoming a rarity and I would have no trouble looking to use an unhooking mat if I was ever fortunate enough to have one take my bait! There are also the chub, tench and bream which as previously mentioned have got to be considered as well.
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7/8/09, 12:36
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Re: carp care
carrying on with fish care ive just been looking at the rigs from the link on the home page and find it hard to believe how some people construct there rigs .. probably the worst ive found was one of the many i have pulled in from broom 12-15lb mainline with 2 swivels and 2 hooklinks attached..
i have not managed to get up broom much this season so do not know if they have lost many carp this year but i have spent a lot of time on the airmen and they have lost a few carp to mid doubles that i know of and yes these may well be natural deaths caused by spawning etc but add these deaths to any carp and cats that may not be discovered because they die stuck in snags attached to a death rig and the numbers soon add up.
random rig and tackle checks are a great idea and the baliffs should not hesitate to ask anyone without the right tackle for their intended species or using unsafe rigs to leave the water..
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30/8/09, 16:41
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Re: carp care
Steve, we have recently done some de-leading down at Broom - removeing some of the line and leads etc from the trees. We did not find any rigs as you describe, with two swivels and two hooklengths, but we did find a few that, whilst not, death rigs, were not very well constructed.
The amount of leads we found on lead clips with the tail rubber jammed on as far is it will go was astounding.
It seems to me that people are jamming them on to prevent themselves losing leads on the take. I used to suffer from this problem on some waters when using lead clips. Violent initial runs resulted in the lead being ejected - even though the fish had not snagged. I undestand this can get expensive with leads being around £1.20 - £1.40 each but the answer is NOT to jam the tail rubber onto the clip.
I changed the rig I used, converting to an inline lead system. This allows the lead to eject on a violent run, but if the fish does not get snagged and you land it with your line intact, you just slide the lead back down and insert the rubber insert back over your hooklink swivel and away you go. No lost leads.
As for random, tackle checks. We have carried out some checks down at the Airman and everything so far, has been in order. One member ended up asking us about rigs, as he was new to Carp fishing and I hope he learnt from the it. He was not using a death rig and was using a premade helicopter rig. Myself and another bailiff spent half an hour or so showing him how different rigs worked.
The unfortunate thing is, the waters cannot be bailiffed 24/7 and it only takes one person to slip through ith a death rig and we have potentially lost another fish.
The thing is these days, that with the amount of literature available to every angler regarding safe rigs and rig tying , there is no excuse for some of the rigs that have been found over the past year. At the end of the day it is down to education.
ALL members are responsible for teaching inexperienced people about the rights and wrongs of fishing, if asked.
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30/8/09, 17:18
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