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bigrobbyault
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Cormorant
hi i done a night on wednesday and when i got up on thursday there where 6 Cormorants all diveing and filling there selfs up on what looked to be good sized roach so i was just wondering what we can do to try and get rid of them or if the club has anythink in place to do it
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24/8/08, 11:45
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Richard Bell
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Re: Cormorant
Can you please confirm which venue you saw the 6 cormorants on. I witnessed 5 cormorants on Willington on Friday morning, 1 at the Airman Friday evening and 1 circling Broom Lake on Saturday morning. There appeared to be fewer cormorants in the area last winter, but they have been showing up on all our waters during the last couple of months.
What can the club do? The most effective deterrent is constant human disturbance, especially at first light when they do most of their feeding. The onus is on ALL MEMBERS to try and scare off any cormorants they see on club waters. Simply waving a landing net around and making some noise often does the trick, this is most effective with two or three anglers dotted around the lake so they have to lift off rather than scurry to the other end of the lake. I was able to scare off four of the cormorants from Willington on Friday, but no doubt they returned later.
The club does not need a licence to shoot blanks to scare cormorants. However, to obtain a licence to shoot cormorants we have to documents sightings, numbers, what non-lethal measures we have tried and evidence of damage to fish stocks. If we obtain a licence there will be a limit to how many could be culled and culling is restricted to the period 1 September to 15 April. Remember members must not bring firearms onto club waters any shooting will be organised by the committee.
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24/8/08, 15:10
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Re: Cormorant
hi richard think you need to act fast as they will get very fat
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24/8/08, 16:23
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Re: Cormorant
Dave, as I said before the onus is on all members to deal with the cormorant problem. Cormorants tend to arrive on a water just before first light and do most of their feeding in the first hour of daylight. If you see any cormorants on our waters you should go out of your way to annoy them - this is the best way to move them on (albeit to another water). Running around waving your arms about and making a lot of noise is the best way of getting them to fly off. They can also be used as target practice using your boilie catapult. I should point out you should only be aiming close enough to scare them and not actually aiming to hit them and deliberately cause injury, otherwise you risk prosecution under the Wildlife and Countryside Act.
A licence to cull would only allow us to shoot a very small proportion of our cormorant visitors, so this is by no means the best answer to the problem.
The current problem at the Airman is new so we must try and move them on before they get too comfortable, although we have had occasional visits there during recent winters.
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24/8/08, 18:18
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Re: Cormorant
HI YEAH IT WAS ON THE AIRMAN I FISHED THE NEW POINT SWIM AND 2 OF THE BIRDS KEPT POPPING UP IN THE BAY TO THE LEFT OF THAT SWIM I DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE LIKE BUT I KNOW A LOT OF CARP HOLD UP IN THAT BAY AND THEY KEPT GETTING SPOOKED BY THE BIRDS
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24/8/08, 18:28
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I don't know about the more members fishing should scare the bloody things off,the one or two now at the Airman seem to like the company they come so close.
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24/8/08, 20:09
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Re: Cormorant
the cormorant i saw at airman didnt give a hoot about tha angler 10 feet away from him.it didnt even move when shouted at.
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25/8/08, 15:58
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The same goes for the few I have seen down at Broom. Waving your arms and making a noise does get them to fly off. . .down to the other end of the lake. I have ended up walking round half the lake waving my arms around until they have eventually moved off. Another tactic I have used is to cast a water filled spod out, the splashes tend to get them to move off elsewhere without causing them any harm.
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Re: Cormorant
hi just wondering has the problem been sorted with the birds yet
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11/9/08, 16:03
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Re: Cormorant
Unfortunately cormorants have wings and can move from water to water! It is really up to anglers to scare off any cormorants that land on (or circle) our waters. They are not going to starve to death, so they will quickly move to other waters where they are undisturbed (hopefully not SDAA waters). Fish refuges were installed at Broom Lake a few years ago and these have helped the silver fish population to recover after the lake was decimated by cormorants.
You can search the web and find plenty of information about cormorants and fisheries. They are a protected species and any licence to cull the odd cormorants will have little effect on the problem.
This is the probably the most important fact I could find on the web:
"The cormorants in the UK are part of the European population. Any large-scale cull of cormorants here may simply create a 'gap' for birds from elsewhere in Europe. To make any difference to the cormorant population, it is estimated that 30,000-60,000 cormorants would have to be killed every year throughout Europe. This is not only impractical; it simply would not be acceptable to the general public."
If the seas had more fish, perhaps the cormorants wouldn't have moved inland to find their food. The same is true for seagulls moving inland for easier pickings on landfill sites.
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