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That has to be the first movie review in a long time that I actually enjoyed reading!
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Re: Well, it ain't fan fic, but...Is a V4V Movie Review OK?
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Higher praise I could not have wished for, and especially from someone with as impressive a literary education as yourself!
Aw... it's not that impressive...
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6/9/2006, 10:34 am
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Re: Well, it ain't fan fic, but...Is a V4V Movie Review OK?
Bump
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Re: Well, it ain't fan fic, but...Is a V4V Movie Review OK?
Dear pwsull,
Thank you for bumping up this thread. I guess I wasn't a member yet when this was posted, so I missed it.
I also wanted to write a review as part of the Films of Hugo Weaving thread on the Mass Media forum, but it seemed like such an undertaking.
Anyway, now that we have been dissecting this film for almost 2 years, it might be interesting to see what all of the remaining member think about it in retrospect.
I'll post a little more on your review later.
Maybe one of the administrators can move this thread to the Mass Media Forum. Reviews of the film certainly deserve their own thread!
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12/5/2007, 4:20 am
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Re: Well, it ain't fan fic, but...Is a V4V Movie Review OK?
quote: Doctor Delia wrote:
I also wanted to write a review as part of the Films of Hugo Weaving thread on the Mass Media forum, but it seemed like such an undertaking.
Anyway, now that we have been dissecting this film for almost 2 years, it might be interesting to see what all of the remaining member think about it in retrospect.
Great Idea Dear Doctor!!!!
...and appologies for my self promoting "bump"...but what can I say? I like what I wrote and some 20 months later I think it has stood the test of time. As I recall I had only seen 2 or 3 times when I penned the review. Now after so many more viewings and so much exploration and discussion I might write it a little differently, in terms of discussion of theme, allegory, and political statement...but not by much.
We recently added an HD DVR to our DirecTV satelite system. Now I have a copy of recorded at 4:30 AM Monday from Cinemax HD to watch in 1080i clarity on a 60 inch screen!
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Wow Pwsull, what a dynamic review! I too am glad you bumped this thread, as I had not seen it before. I would be honored if you could send me the pdf of your original article.
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Re: Well, it ain't fan fic, but...Is a V4V Movie Review OK?
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Wow Pwsull, what a dynamic review! I too am glad you bumped this thread, as I had not seen it before. I would be honored if you could send me the pdf of your original article.
Thanks for the kind words Viv
I will PM you to arrange the download.
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Re: Well, it ain't fan fic, but...Is a V4V Movie Review OK?
Dear pwsull,
I must say that you were definitely spot-on with this review. Many of the themes and symbolism of the film you recognized right away, while it took me many months to work out.
quote: None the less the Wachowski’s trademark is stamped all over the production. Fortunately though, this film can trace its creative lineage to the thought provoking, original “The Matrix” rather than its two disappointing sequels.
I didn't think that it looked much like a Wachowski brothers film at first but on repeated viewings, the similarities to "The Matrix" are obvious.
quote: I believe many of the professional reviewers of this film "got it wrong" or didn't get it at all (especially Manohla Dargis of The NY Times, and David Denby of The New Yorker). They focused on its comic book origins and the previously mined literary territory it is derivative of.
How true, the movie is a lot deeper than it looks, and some of my friends wondered why I would recommend it.
quote: As an old fan of "graphic" (comic book) literature, I probably accept the broad premises and conventions of the movie's source material less critically than Ms. Dargis and Mr. Denby do. One can not escape the fact that the movie is based on the “graphic novel” written by Alan Moore and illustrated by David Lloyd twenty plus years ago.
I have wondered about this creative decision on the part of the filmmakers. Just because the source material is a graphic novel, does the final product have to look like one?
quote: But V is a very different kind of comic book animal, whose motivation and demons are compelling in spite of the broad, archetypal brush strokes with which he is painted.
Yes, but as you say many people cannot get beyond the GN style.
quote: The Wachowskis have improved and updated the original material, crafting a movie that is plot driven, and provocative. They go far beyond the “action-adventure” genre the ads and trailers suggest, and into mystery, romance, and political intrigue with compelling cinematic mastery.
That's for sure!
quote: It is clear that the film makers are grinding a present day political axe here, but it is done so seamlessly, within the context of compelling story, that it does not come off as preaching.
I wonder if public opinion would be more or less on the side of V since the mid-term elections, the neutralization of Scooter Libby and the resignation of Karl Rove. It seemed at the time of the release of the movie that we were gripped with overwhelming paranoia and outrage.
quote: V is a monster “created” à la Frankenstein by a totalitarian government.
Do you still agree with this?
quote: Quite disturbingly, he is as mentally ill and sociopathic as the political leaders he is planning to topple.
I know we've debated this point for a long time, but do you still agree with it?
quote: Despite the perpetually smiling Guy Fawkes mask he wears, Weaving is able to communicate V’s tortured complexity and humanity through vocal intonation, posture, and gesture.
And how!!!
quote: But V’s methods are reprehensible, and in the final analysis, the only real difference between V and his fascist antagonists is that his ideals are liberty, freedom, open-mindedness, and altruism, while theirs are power, control, and intolerance.
Had you read the graphic novel before seeing the film? You recognized that there is some debate here. Other critics have been dismayed that V is portrayed kind sympathetically.
An outstanding review overall, pw, and one that has stood the test of time!
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