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i love the part where V doses finch's coffe and takes him on a trip down the rabbit hole. Bravo! 
And to go back to the beginning on the train i love love love "Please allow me to introduce myself..." that was genius!
--- How do I love \/? Let me count the ways!
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And to go back to the beginning on the train i love love love "Please allow me to introduce myself..." that was genius!
As I say - I am not a huge fan of the GN, but I am fair, and it certainly had several elements that I felt the film could have benefited from. That line was one of them 
Let me put it this way. V is very much a mental magpie, and one way in which I felt the Wachowskis did him a slight disservice was in having him quote nothing but Shakespeare. I had to offer respectful disagreement to this notion; he'd been living down there in the gloom surrounded by all sorts of forbidden cultural icons...movies, music and books. It would have filled his head from side to side. I don't feel that he would have picked just one writer to quote.
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YAY!!!!!!! LEDA'S BACK!!!!
SQUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBLE!!!!
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Cobralily wrote:
And to go back to the beginning on the train i love love love "Please allow me to introduce myself..." that was genius!
As I say - I am not a huge fan of the GN, but I am fair, and it certainly had several elements that I felt the film could have benefited from. That line was one of them
OOOH!!!! OOOOH!!!! OOOH!!! OOOH!!! OOOOOOOH!!!!!
I COMPLETELY agree!!! IIRC, he used that line upon meeting up with the bishop, which makes it even more amusing. (After all, in that scene, we really DO have "Sympathy For the Devil".)
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Let me put it this way. V is very much a mental magpie, and one way in which I felt the Wachowskis did him a slight disservice was in having him quote nothing but Shakespeare. I had to offer respectful disagreement to this notion; he'd been living down there in the gloom surrounded by all sorts of forbidden cultural icons...movies, music and books. It would have filled his head from side to side. I don't feel that he would have picked just one writer to quote.
NODNODNODNODNOD!!!!
I thought that the use of music was lovely and I DO understand why the focus was so intensely on Shakespeare. Being in the public domain, the Bard's words are less expensive to a production than modern words. After all, if one writes a screenplay around certain turns of phrase and then is denied permission to use the words, rewriting can be a ***** and a half. What they did use they used well, and I approved of the changes to V's character that humanized him and made him a more sympathetic antihero.
That said, I think Leda's appellation of "mental magpie" is absolutely spot-on, and for me makes V all the more appealing, because I am a mental magpie too. Living inside my head is like being subjected to a DVD player gone haywire: snippets of songs, movies, memories, conversations, and interactions with and between fictional characters. It's a massive word-association game in there.
It's a wonder I can think straight at all.
Anyway, Leda's talents as a writer were one of the first things I fell in love with about her.
And I still covet her vocabulary.
I think her fiance would be very happy with what she's done.
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V is very much a mental magpie, and one way in which I felt the Wachowskis did him a slight disservice was in having him quote nothing but Shakespeare. I had to offer respectful disagreement to this notion; he'd been living down there in the gloom surrounded by all sorts of forbidden cultural icons...movies, music and books. It would have filled his head from side to side. I don't feel that he would have picked just one writer to quote.
Oh, what a lovely descrption. I'm adding that one to the Rolodex, for sure. "Mental magpie" and information "fill[ing] his head from side to side." Just marvelous turns of phrase!
That reminds me, I was disappointed V never recited "Jerusalem" — or better yet sang a few lines — in the film. It's a fitting poem and V being such a man obviously so fiercely devoted to the strength and beauty of his country, I think it would have been appropriate (and delighttfully ironic, perhaps) to keep that detail of the GN.
Guess we can't have it all, can we.
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I am a mental magpie too. Living inside my head is like being subjected to a DVD player gone haywire: snippets of songs, movies, memories, conversations, and interactions with and between fictional characters. It's a massive word-association game in there.
my best friend and i can have a conversation of nothing but quotes from shows, movies and song.
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Well, our Magpie does reference ****ens and Faust.
BTW, that sloganizer is such a hoot. right now it says
"V is our middle name."
wait.... it's changed again, to "V, pure lust." 
---  "There is no certainty, only opportunity." -- V
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