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Doctor D, I found it on Youtube. 
click here
*investigates (but can't watch from this "classified location")* 4 minutes, 14 seconds? No way that's the full song! The audio track I have on my Zen is 11:34!
 Why does she do that? Why does she bother performing the long, lyrical songs live if she's going to cut out half the story? Iseult and I both have her Nights from the Alhambra DVD, and she cut half the story from both "Lady of Shalott" and "Bonny Swans".
Check Napster (I downloaded a couple of her albums from them), Yahoo! Music, iTunes, one of those services. All else fails, we'll... work something out.  *winkwinknudgenudge*
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I'm bettin' the YouTube vid is from that dvd.
It's not - different live performance.
(Gawd, I'm being so bad today...)
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Thanks, freedom4ever, but incredible as it sounds I haven't gotten around to getting high-speed internet yet. I still have dial-up, so Youtube is out of the question. Is there a CD?
Anyway, I thought it might be useful to list the table of contents of Prof. Keller's book to give you an overview of where he's headed.
Introduction: Shadow Texts, Superstrings, and Parallel Universes. This introduction is very dense with metaphor, and I think the professor tends to get a little carried away with it. For some reason he uses these obscure theories in theoretical physics like string theory, black holes and the big bang to explain his brand of post-modern literary criticism. I don't get this at all. I mean, if you're explaining something complicated, like structuralism and deconstruction, wouldn't you use something really simple as a comparison? String theory isn't understodd by most physicists let alone English professors. I almost sent the book back based on this Intro, but the book does get better.
Chapter 1: Tyranny and the Powder Treason. I think this book started out as an essay on Guy Fawkes, but it got too long for a mere article.
Chapter 2: V's Terroism: Power and Performance. State terrorism vs. Individual terrorism or Sutler vs. V.
More on this later. Instead of painting V as a totally heroic, Dr. Keller gives a more balanced view of these two characters. This is the kind of discussion that I think Alan Moore would have been happier about.
Chapter 3: "Half Sick of Shadows": Tennyson, Waterhouse, and 'The Lady of Shallot" Which we are discussing now...
Chapter 4: V and the Count of Monte Cristo. Dr. Keller goes into a rather long discussion of the 1934 movie as well as the French novel and compares both stories to the plot-line of 'V4V." Interestingly he sees V as both Edmund Dantes, as well as the half-mad priest Faria who imparts all of his wisdom to Dantes.
Based on Dantes' situation, Dr. Keller also drops some hints as to why V was incarcerated in the first place and who he might have been before ending up at Larkhill.
Chapter 5: '1984' and the Dystopian Genre. This is a pretty standard comparison of near-future dystopian movies like '1984' and 'Brazil' with "V4V.' Oddly he doesn't discuss 'Fahrenheit 451' or 'A Clockwork Orange."
Chapter 6: Knight, Death and Devil. A reference no doubt to a famous engraving by Albrecht Durer. I think this is going to be my favorite chapter. This is where he really gets into the question of who V is, what does he symbolize and what other movie or literary characters are like him or are influences on the creation of the character. There is also a discussion of V's motivation. Interestingly, he thinks that V was not motivated so much by his own personal revenge; that would make him just a vengeful madman. He thinks V has sublimated his hatred and vengeance into some kind of chivalrous mission to avenge his love-object, Valerie.
THAT is what has kept him going all these years, not the hatred part so much. It also goes a long way toward explaining his character and courtly manners. Hence the 'knight' of the title.
Chapter 7: 'Odds and Ends Stolen Forth of Holy Writ': Shakespeare and the Invention of V. A comparison of the storylines of 'Macbeth,' 'Hamlet,' and 'Richard III"to 'V4V' with mention made of 'Twelth Night' and "Measure for Measure.' This chapter attempts to answer the question what kind of persona does a man with no name, no memory, and very little left of his original face, create? How and why?
Chapter 8: 'Monuments of Unaging Intellect': The Shadows in V's Gallery. The art of the shadow gallery.
Chapter 9: V for Virus: The Spectacle of the AIDS Avenger and the Biomedical Military Trope. Kind of self-explantory, but I think it may be a little off the mark. I haven't gotten this far yet, but I'll get back to you later on this one.
Conclusion: Of Shadow Texts
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Index
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Ordered from Amazon.
Interesting chapters. i am an old fan of CMC and Faria is not, to my recollection, mad. As with many of the people in the book, he's based on a real person of the same name. [teresa Guiccioli is one, Bracciano is another...] He did get in trouble for advocating a united italy. IIRC, he has memorized 150 of the greatest books and does know where the treasure of the Spada's is hidden.
V as self-created Shakeperian pastiche? It likes me well. I have been interested in the Ur-V, the man before the mask, behind the mask, back Here some time back.
I want to talk to the prof!
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Thanks, freedom4ever, but incredible as it sounds I haven't gotten around to getting high-speed internet yet. I still have dial-up, so Youtube is out of the question. Is there a CD?
(Sorry Iseult and I took over the thread for a bit, there.  )
There is indeed a CD - that's where I had my first exposure to the song. The disc you're looking for is The Visit, which also has Loreena's renditions of "Greensleeves" and "Bonny Portmore". And as I said before, check with Napster or Yahoo! Music, sites of that ilk (don't bother with the Amazon MP3 downloads, though - I just checked, they don't have it).
(And, all else fails, drop me an email. )
BTW, I am paying attention to and enjoying your discussion of the book! 
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BTW, I am paying attention to and enjoying your discussion of the book!
I'm also enjoying the discussion
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Thanks, freedom4ever, but incredible as it sounds I haven't gotten around to getting high-speed internet yet. I still have dial-up, so Youtube is out of the question
 I hear your frustration Doctor Delia, I too was a Broadband virgin until just a few months ago! Couldn't watch vids, indulge in messenger or anything of that fun nature. I now have a whole new experience of the internet and am loving it! Although, it has only served to increase the amount of time I spend online, so beware!
Thanks for the content list! 
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LOL  Well, F4E, as V would say, "It's time..."
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Cyranorox wrote: i am an old fan of CMC and Faria is not, to my recollection, mad.
Sorry, Cyrano, I stand corrected. I guess maybe it was the somewhat over-the-top performance of the actor in the 1934 movie that made me think he was a little "touched."
And...I enjoyed very much revisting your Identity, Actor, and Mask thread. V is a tricky part indeed. Several actors and stuntmen, several voices, and several disguises...and it works! What I would give to be able to ask Weaving how he approached such a role. Yeah, I know he has said it was just instinct and maybe for someone of his talent it is just "flying by the seat of your pants," but I wonder if HE sees V as having some central identity or none. Hmmm....
Oh, by the way, ButMad, thanks for the heads up. I'll be sure to check out that CD.
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