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quote: Madlings wrote:
But we don't need it rammed down our throat
Who's ramming it down your throat? You have the power to expose yourself to as much or as little of the media as you like and you exercise that right by choosing not to watch the news.
quote: I'm also a firm believer that the US needs to stop sticking its collective nose into everyone else's business until we fix our own damn problems.
At the very least we need to stop being so damn selective about it! Fascist dictator in Iraq gets brought down, but then he has oil, fascist dictator in South Africa causing misery to thousands, but we're fine with that cause they've got nothing to offer us!
quote: Yes, okay, there are (for example) starving, homeless, AIDS kids in Africa. But we have them here, too.
Not even vaguely on the same scale. From the minute a child is born in the western world the cards they are dealt are far preferable than the cards a baby is dealt in the third world. We live in a land of opportunity, 'they' live in a world of ****e. We have the power to cancel third world debt, just like that, but it will never happen.
I know what you mean though. Madonna really pissed people off here when she went to Africa to adopt a child. We all said 'Oi, get your butt to Walthamstow, there's plenty of under privileged children there!' But no, she wanted a black baby, I don't even want to let my brain 'go there' with the logic in that woman's brain.
Anyhoo, I'm wandering off topic again, at least this is the politics thread.
quote: We'll work on the other one tomorrow.
Which other one?!
*looks for other brain cell*
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Who's ramming it down your throat? You have the power to expose yourself to as much or as little of the media as you like and you exercise that right by choosing not to watch the news.
And I do that. My point was about how the media behaves, how they try to ram it down our throats. And a lot of people buy into it, they listen to the over-polished talking heads about how they "must tune in at 11 to find out what in your kitchen might kill you." (Or whatever.)
In other words, the "news" is looking for sensationalism and ratings, not actual news. Everything's a crisis, everything's out to kill you, every spit of rain is life-threatening...
(Sorry if I'm rambling worse than usual; I've got Top Gear on and am distracted.)
quote: At the very least we need to stop being so damn selective about it! Fascist dictator in Iraq gets brought down, but then he has oil, fascist dictator in South Africa causing misery to thousands, but we're fine with that cause they've got nothing to offer us!
No argument here. And Iraq was, IMO, first about Bush Jr. settling his daddy's fight (several years late - if we'd gotten him the first time, my BIL wouldn't have missed most of his son's life thus far - thank GAWD he's home for good now!); second about oil; tenth about taking down Hussein.
quote: Not even vaguely on the same scale.
Well, no, but it's still a valid point that we have problems here that need to be dealt with.
quote: We have the power to cancel third world debt, just like that, but it will never happen.
Don't look at the US to do that - we have our own debt.
*cough*Huge surplus under Clinton, now an even larger deficit - where the hell did Bush Jr. put all that damn money?!*cough*
(And people wonder why everyone is in such credit card debt - look at the example our government sets for us!)
quote: I know what you mean though. Madonna really pissed people off here when she went to Africa to adopt a child. We all said 'Oi, get your butt to Walthamstow, there's plenty of under privileged children there!' But no, she wanted a black baby, I don't even want to let my brain 'go there' with the logic in that woman's brain.
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quote: We'll work on the other one tomorrow.
Which other one?!
*looks for other brain cell*
There *must* be another one in there - you had the sense to want to become a nonsmoker and Mark must have had something in there to work with. 
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quote: must tune in at 11 to find out what in your kitchen might kill you." (Or whatever.)
In other words, the "news" is looking for sensationalism and ratings, not actual news. Everything's a crisis, everything's out to kill you, every spit of rain is life-threatening...
Indeedy and most news these days is more celebrity orientated than anything else! I think I have now found news sources that I feel I can trust, but it's taken me years to find them. In the end, most have an agenda.
quote: (Sorry if I'm rambling worse than usual; I've got Top Gear on and am distracted.)
Stop mentally squoobling that Hamster!
quote: There *must* be another one in there - you had the sense to want to become a nonsmoker and Mark must have had something in there to work with.
Honestly, Mr.f4e just had a look in my ear and announced he could see all the way thru. oh and I may well come to Blighty and flippin' well MAKE Mark acknowldege my brilliance in giving up the fags! I'll make him sorry for glossing over my news!
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Firstly, I want to say that I'm glad the debate is winding down. My throat really ****in' hurts now, and I don't have the drive to keep up the debate.
quote: freedom4ever wrote:
I think I have now found news sources that I feel I can trust, but it's taken me years to find them. In the end, most have an agenda.
*nods* Fox News here in the States has been really scary Conservative as long as I can remember. And I mean in the "Bush can do no wrong, and we're going to make things up to slander Obama" kind of way.
But lately, they've been changing their tune! It's really astounding.
quote: Stop mentally squoobling that Hamster!
But.... but.... but.... they were so mean to him! (And yes, I'm planning to bring that disc to show you. )
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Honestly, Mr.f4e just had a look in my ear and announced he could see all the way thru. 
He better be careful, or he's going to lose his pressie (assuming I can find it in the first place).
quote: oh and I may well come to Blighty and flippin' well MAKE Mark acknowldege my brilliance in giving up the fags! I'll make him sorry for glossing over my news!
Run, Mark, run!

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My throat really ****in' hurts now, and I don't have the drive to keep up the debate.
I hope you get better soon
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quote: friendlysolarflare wrote:
quote: ButMadNNW wrote:
My throat really ****in' hurts now, and I don't have the drive to keep up the debate.
I hope you get better soon 
Ta, luv. I hope so, too, because it would really suck to fly with this!
Showering and/or doing a bit of self-hypnotic work seems to have toned down the pain, at least. I'm going to sit down with one of Mark's programs when I get back from errands to see if that helps at least make me more comfortable (also, deep relaxation boosts immune function).
*squoobles Mark for everything I've learned from his site*
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