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The Finch Character Discussion Thread
I've looked on every page of Dramatis Personae and haven't seen a thread for Finch, so feel free to move this if I've missed it.
Obviously this forum has a majority of V supporters, and I'm with you too, but I'd like to dedicate a small section of the forum for discussion about another great character in V for Vendetta. I'm talking about movie-verse Finch since I have yet to buy the GN and I'm not sure I like what I've heard about him in there anyway.
I think what I like about him is that he's a really believable character. He seems to have his qualms about Norsefire but doesn't say anything because he knows he'll only end up in prison. I suppose I can relate well to him -- that feeling of wanting to do something but not having the courage, being unsure of what you really want. I suppose I sympathize for him.
There were a couple of scenes in the movie that I think really said a lot about Finch's character. When V was making his broadcast, Finch was watching, and you could tell he was listening, that he really believed the words. I really enjoy studying characters, and it's really interesting to see how Finch changes throughout the movie. He gradually begins to see what is wrong with society, and begins to question his views. He really has V to thank for all that; I really would have loved to see some more interaction between them. There was a scene that really moved me in which he was sitting in his flat just drinking a beer. And this perfect song was in the background. It's just a moment that lets you see into his character, despite the fact that he doesn't speak. And then at the end it seems like he's really affected by meeting Evey, she is finally able to show him that the way he's been living is wrong, and he needs to be true to himself.
I also have to commend the actor for his excellent acting. It was very... real, especially in the part where Finch is talking about all the "feelings" he's had about what was going to happen. A really great moment in the film for me. I'd really like to see that guy in more acting roles.
There's something else I feel I should address, which is the strange parallels between Evey and V's relationship and Every and Finch. The first encounter between V and Evey was when V blew up the bailey and the 1812 Overture played. That was nearly Evey's first scene in the movie, in which V is teaching her. The last scene with Evey is where she and Finch are also watching fireworks and listening to the same music, only this time Evey is in charge. V asked Evey if she liked music that first November 5, and one year later Every asked Finch the same question. Also, Finch spent a lot of time tracking Evey down, and almost succeeded in capturing her, although it wouldn't have been good for her. It's an interesting moment when Evey looks at Finch and says that V was him. They have a second of eye contact which sticks with me for some reason.
Supposedly Finch is almost 60, which makes any further relationship between he and Evey unlikely. Yet it would be somewhat interesting to write, I think.
Well, that's all I can seem to find to say on the subject. Any other fans out there?
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10/17/2006, 4:56 pm
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Re: The Finch Character Discussion Thread
You might have missed our little Finch discussion on The Little Things That Sparkled Thread, but I suppose it isn't a bad idea for Finch to have his own thread.
I also am a fan of Finch, thinking that V's character is overrated. V's just a catalyst for an event that involves EVERYONE.
I too was thinking recently about Finch carefully watching V on the tv at BTN. He is a sponge of a man - takes everything in and is the puzzlemaster, which is another reason why I like him so much. I also like the fact he uses information to make educated decisions, but also uses his intuition - the best of both worlds. Of course, I do think he is also accountable for being part of Norsefire and not taking action or action, such as investigations that lead to innocent people's arrests.
The actor is Stephen Rhea and he's been a favorite of mine for quite some time upon my initial viewing of him in The Crying Game. He is in several movies.
And in regard to a relationship with V and Evey, you might check out the conversation I had with pswull on the Sparkle thread just over the last week or so. And I'd love to hear what you have to say as well. I don't think their relationship would be likely either, but then who knows. Hey, we need a Finch emoticon!
Oh and I don't think I said it yet - Welcome euphonious! Here's a cup of tea and a slice of V-cake for you. 
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Re: The Finch Character Discussion Thread
Finch is definitely something special. I was extremely impressed at how fast he and Dominic worked out what V was all about. They never caught up to him, but they were right behind him the whole way. V must have considered how quickly they were going to catch on because when he took out the last "big three" he did them in rapid succession, knowing he'd have only a short time before Finch would make all the connections. If V had been any less of a genious he'd have gotten caught for sure.
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Re: The Finch Character Discussion Thread
Euphonius, welcome!
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Vienna 7 wrote: You might have missed our little Finch discussion on The Little Things That Sparkled Thread, but I suppose it isn't a bad idea for Finch to have his own thread.
I second Vienna's endorsement! Great idea on the Finch thread! After many viewings, I too have decided that Finch is my favorite character.
There has been much discussion about Finch and his motivation and "conscience" on these pages in past debate which you might want to refer to for some background. The 10/15/06 page 51 of the "Sparkle Thread" Vienna referred you to was just the tail end of a re-animated discussion on Finch which I had originally kicked off way back on June 7th on page 24 of the same "The Little Things That Sparkled" thread of "The Love Seat" division of the board.
My wife and I just watched the film again last night in honor of Guy Fawlkes Day, and I continue to be intrigued by the Finch/Hammond relationship implications of the "flash-forward" film snippet I reference. After the film was finished, I skipped back to Finch's "It was just a feeling" monologue which accompanies the flash-back-forward montage and the dominoes, paused on the future Evey and Finch scene in question and asked my wife what her reaction to it was....
Her reply: "What?...Is that supposed to mean they get married or something?"
Which had been my reaction originally as well.
Take a look at my interpretation from June 7th.
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I wasn't too sure what to think of it at first. I remember talking to hubby about it, and his reaction was pretty much "of course they get together" I asked him why and he said he had not seen that little bit of a scene but was basing it off of the two of them in the tube station. I know I've said it before, but if you look between Evey and Finch on a couple of occasions you see the last three letters of Strand. So it's Evey AND Finch or Finch AND Evey. When finally we did watch it and he saw the scene of Evey and the roses he felt his feelings were confirmed. And I do agree with him. In fact, in the script that descrption of that quick bit does say something to the effect that Finch is sitting on 'their' couch (Evey and Finch that is) 
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11/6/2006, 9:11 am
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Ahhh,....interesting bit about the script, Sultana. Is this something that's in the new book out on the making of the movie? I just didn't see ANY chemistry between Evey and Finch and I think that is why I didn't assume they were in an intimate relationship in that scene. When I saw the flash forward scene, I just imagined they were good friends collaborating on rebuilding their country.
And about "strand" - aren't you stretching it just a bit there??? 
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and we admire it so because it calmly disdains to destroy us.
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Yup. It was in the book Script to Film.
As for the Strand. That wasn't my doing...that was hubby's.  I didn't even notice it till he said something. And I can't really come up with a good reason why McTeigue would have left anything up about what tube station they're using there... So, the AND between Finch/Evey to show they somehow work/live/love together made sense to me.
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curioser and curioser, i wouldn't be suprised if it ws deliberate. i really think that they end up being friends, not lovers.
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Alright pwsull, go ahead and have your little May/December fantasy. 
