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Could you forgive V?
I am not sure where to put this topic so I am just sticking it here since it relates to both the characters of Evey and V.
This is something that has been on my mind since I joined this board and have wanted to ask all the rest of you.
So here is my question:
If you were in Evey's position, if you just walked out of what you assumed had been some terrible interrogations, torture and a possibility of death at the hands of Fingermen, only to find out it was V, would you be able to forgive him?
Taking into consideration the fact that, at the time when she first found out it was V, Evey didn't know V's entire backstory, as we did as the audience (knowing what he was subjected to and that he actually had experienced all he made her experience) could you forgive him for torturing you to "help" you?
Of course, it's a bit hard to forget that we DO know his backstory, but if I were in her position I know I'd have a VERY hard time forgiving him.
I don't let things go very easily so even though I'd know he did everything for the greater good it would still get to me and still hurt me. I don't know that I'd ever be able to forgive him completely. Of course, I'm pretty sure after a while the gratitude would overcome the anger, but I don't know that I'd be able to LOVE him after being tortured like that.
I know we all like V and would love to defend his actions, but when you get right down to it... if it was you that was put through what Evey was... could you really forgive him... and love him?
Just wondering... I'd love to hear what you all think!
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Re: Could you forgive V?
I would have probably tried to kill him as soon as I found out but as V began to explain things to me (or her in this case) I think I'd get the picture and I'd just cry in his arms.
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Re: Could you forgive V?
I would be infuriated to the point of snarling and yelling at V. My language would be particularly colorful for the occasion. Since anger tends to make me go stupid for a bit, I would probably end up throwing thngs at V as well. (Those artifacts! )
As for forgiveness, if I ever did, it would take a while. I tend to hold things against people (grudges are some of my vices), even if what they did was to help me. After giving the whole sequence of events thought, it would be possible for me to eventually forgive him.
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Re: Could you forgive V?
Does the GN go into detail of Evey's torture? Or the novelisation? (I haven't reached that part yet)
In the movie she gets her head shaved and is sprayed with either hot water, cold water, or chemicals (not sure which). She's confined to a dank cell without even a blanket to lay upon. She's interrogated in a dark room lit by a single blinding light.
The above-mentioned would be enough for me to take some deadly serious swings at him, and my grudge would last at least as long as it took for my hair to grow back!
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Re: Could you forgive V?
Yes, i think i could. He did it to abolish the fear in her, and could you imagine living without fear? True freedom, folks.
I always wanted to know what i'd look like without a shaved head...
plus, ya know....some people pay good money to have people do the stuff V did to her to them. lol.
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It's really hard to declare how you would feel in such a situation - it's so far and beyond any normal experience. But I'd like to think that, given time, I'd come to appreciate what V did for me and why he did it. Like V himself said, I may never forgive him, but it did make Evey a stronger person......
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Re: Could you forgive V?
That's an almost impossible question to answer because we only have a vague idea of what he did to her and for how long it lasted. And more importantly, no-one here has been tortured (I hope, anyway).
For us it seems to maybe only last a few days or weeks, and yet that would for the tortured that would be an eternity.
And yes, in the GN it does show more of what he did to her I believe, some of it very unpleasant...
I live in a country where up until 30 years ago people were snatched by a secret police, imprisoned and tortured - without even knowing why. After the (peaceful) revolution, the ones who survived and were released were changed for life, but not stronger like Evey, but broken and haunted.
That's why the letter from Valerie was so important, it was the only lifeline he gave her, and her only impetus to hang on, to survive. She had no friends or family, without that letter she may never have regained the will to live.
I suppose it comes down to 'does the end justify the means?', yet it's hard; after believing that someone so seemingly sweet and caring, so human despite the mask, could coldly divide himself into such different roles and inflict pain and humiliation with such an icy resolve.
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Re: Could you forgive V?
i dont fear death anyway, not since i almost died(that day sucked ass)
i would have been pissed about the hair
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Re: Could you forgive V?
This brings up an important change that the W's made from the original story in the GN.
*Spoilers from the GN ahead*
Evey doesn't leave the Shadow Gallery after V releases her from her imprisonment. She stays, regains her strength and in general performs the role of exposition-enabler Or at least until the 5th gets closer.
I definitely preferred the film's version. I had trouble with the idea that she would stay there, even if she understood why V did what he did. By having her leave she's given time to process the experience, gain perspective, work out how she feels about him and possibly forgive him. By staying it raises the possibility that he's somewhat brainwashed her.
As for myself...I don't know if I could ever forgive him.
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Re: Could you forgive V?
From the GN point of view--no! At least not right away I don't think. Anyone who would do that to me to prove a point would make me mad as anything!
Then again, what kind of life would I go back to....fear...constant fear of everything. Maybe the letting go of that fear was something to note.
But as for me, personally, no.
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