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Incog4
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Joseph, your infamy in "P" is still waning, but not gone yet!
I'm putting this here because I'd mentioned it in the "Board Stats" thread in this same forum.
What I said was to the effect that "the usual suspects" had either voluntarily or forcibly quit their whining and crying about you in "P" and its offshoot boards.
But, upon scanning through "P" this morning, I found that (only) the head mod and the one you'd stripped of his powers had again resorted to "mentioning the common enemy" in the heat of an argument between themselves. And as per usual, that soon cooled-down their mutual blame-laying for the current state of the moribund "P" forum.
The former mod (as per usual) had enjoined the battle because other posters there had "backed into a corner" the self-aggrandizing head mod, by comparing his new drunken lies with his old ones about his health, his strength, his military experience, his personal moral values and so forth.
I also found the head mod admitting that he's in the process of "salvaging and rebuilding" what's left of that place, which is a great departure from his previous claims to the effect that it is "thriving and doing well" under his stewardship.
You might make time to find and read this stuff yourself, if you're in need of some belly-laughs. 
A/G
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3/25/2006, 11:27 am
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Joseph Sarandos
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Re: Joseph, your infamy in "P" is still waning, but not gone yet!
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Incog4 wrote:
I'm putting this here because I'd mentioned it in the "Board Stats" thread in this same forum.
What I said was to the effect that "the usual suspects" had either voluntarily or forcibly quit their whining and crying about you in "P" and its offshoot boards.
But, upon scanning through "P" this morning, I found that (only) the head mod and the one you'd stripped of his powers had again resorted to "mentioning the common enemy" in the heat of an argument between themselves. And as per usual, that soon cooled-down their mutual blame-laying for the current state of the moribund "P" forum.
The former mod (as per usual) had enjoined the battle because other posters there had "backed into a corner" the self-aggrandizing head mod, by comparing his new drunken lies with his old ones about his health, his strength, his military experience, his personal moral values and so forth.
I also found the head mod admitting that he's in the process of "salvaging and rebuilding" what's left of that place, which is a great departure from his previous claims to the effect that it is "thriving and doing well" under his stewardship.
You might make time to find and read this stuff yourself, if you're in need of some belly-laughs.
A/G
LOL Aaron!
I'm not surprised by any of this except for the admission that the forum needs rebuilding.
"Scrapping it and starting over from scratch" is the only way I see to save it, since moderator-changes have only made it worse over the last few years, and the former mods are still claiming that theirs were the best of times.
No free time right now, but things should loosen-up in a few more weeks.
Thanks for the update.
Joseph
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3/25/2006, 3:31 pm
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Incog4
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Re: Joseph, your infamy in "P" is still waning, but not gone yet!
This is probably all moot now, Joseph.
It appears that "P" is gone from the internet permanently.
Try accessing it, and you'll see that the domain is dead.
http://engforum.pravda.ru/index.php3?s=57f2e79982c31ec7676e791c142edaa
This doesn't indicate "hacking," but "plug-pulling".
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3/27/2006, 3:48 am
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Re: Joseph, your infamy in "P" is still waning, but not gone yet!
I'm just now getting on the computer, Aaron, and it's after 11 AM, but Pravda's access-problem seems to have cleared up since you saw it. vBulletin software lets the owners go completely offline with or without posting a message to the public, so there was probably some database work going on.
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3/27/2006, 11:32 am
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Incog4
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Re: Joseph, your infamy in "P" is still waning, but not gone yet!
Joseph,
What I was getting was the "not found on this server" notice, that usually means a web site no longer exists.
I saw that others had been getting the same for many hours on Sunday, so I assumed that someone had finally pulled the plug on "P".
A/G
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3/28/2006, 12:16 pm
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Re: Joseph, your infamy in "P" is still waning, but not gone yet!
Joseph,
This is just an update on your "infamy" in Pravda.
My midnight-hours research of that dying forum has revealed the recent "negative incantation" of your name by only VA, zhurn and strellie, along with references to the so-called "Sarandos affair" from many years back, especially in the never-ending brawling and blame-laying threads between VA and zhurn.
As de rigueur, zhurn is trying new and different denials of his granting you access to the Administrators Controls, and VA is trying new and different threats to reveal the truth of that matter without exposing the collusion between zhurn and himself. Strellie and Dolf are still siding with VA, and a few other old-timers are taking separate shots at zhurn's attempted revisions of his initial BS-stories involving his "retarded son".
In general, VA and zhurn, along with strellie, are being ridiculed or ignored by even the worst of your previous detractors, and some of them are actually defending your true and provable version of the "Sarandos affair," so this amounts to yet another of the "tempests in a teapot" accounting for the slide of Pravda into its curent state of moribundity and insignificance among internet "big board" forums.
I'd venture to say that your new TFTF is receiving hundreds more daily views by "serious outsiders" than is Pravda, regardless that most of the threads here were started by you and that they are mostly "reference material" in support of your years-old stances and explanations.
Pravda is still falsely claiming a registered membership into the thousands, but the obvious fact is that a bare handful of multi-monikered individuals are doing the bulk of posting there, and most of their posts involve in-fighting and flame-warring between themselves and posters in Pravda-offshoot boards, with only a bare minimum of serious and significant contributions with regard to the current world-situation.
There have been changes and additions to the so-called "leadership team," and very many of the "regulars" have either left or been banned, but chaos and rules-ignoring still prevail in all forums including Main. Zhurn has turned into the most obnoxious, racist and foul-mouthed of all the posters, even though he still attempts to moralize against such behavior. IOW, Pravda is now a nut-house.
It turns out that you were perfectly right in leaving it to die a slow and painful death instead of "mercy killing" it while you had the opportunity and means to do it thanks to zhurn's handing you access to the Control Panel.
Like you've said and repeated, time proves all truths and dispels all lies, with a minimum of help from patient, persistent and truthful men in their true identities. You happen to be one of the very few on the internet with such qualities and virtues, and so it was always just a matter of time before you became widely recognized as such. This board proves conclusively that you have outlasted and ground-down your detractors, keeping your integrity and reputation intact.
Sorry about the length and depth of this post, Joseph, but I'm suffering a bit of insomnia combined with nostalgia tonight, after spending most of today reading and hearing about what's happening in Iraq and in Washington pending the upcoming mid-term elections, and considering the rash of revelations involving further atrocities on the parts of our battle-weary and mind-boggled troops in Iraq.
I'll give you a call sometime this afternoon.
A/G
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6/4/2006, 2:18 am
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Re: Joseph, your infamy in "P" is still waning, but not gone yet!
Aaron,
You wrote:
"I'd venture to say that your new TFTF is receiving hundreds more daily views by "serious outsiders" than is Pravda, regardless that most of the threads here were started by you and that they are mostly "reference material" in support of your years-old stances and explanations.
Pravda is still falsely claiming a registered membership into the thousands, but the obvious fact is that a bare handful of multi-monikered individuals are doing the bulk of posting there, and most of their posts involve in-fighting and flame-warring between themselves and posters in Pravda-offshoot boards, with only a bare minimum of serious and significant contributions with regard to the current world-situation.
There have been changes and additions to the so-called "leadership team," and very many of the "regulars" have either left or been banned, but chaos and rules-ignoring still prevail in all forums including Main. Zhurn has turned into the most obnoxious, racist and foul-mouthed of all the posters, even though he still attempts to moralize against such behavior. IOW, Pravda is now a nut-house.
It turns out that you were perfectly right in leaving it to die a slow and painful death instead of "mercy killing" it while you had the opportunity and means to do it thanks to zhurn's handing you access to the Control Panel."
What goes on in that board now is totally inconsequential and insignificant. For all practical purposes, it's nothing more than a "chat-room" for what's left of it's various opposing cliques, and nobody in the world takes it seriously. IOW, it's been rendered harmless.
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6/5/2006, 8:45 am
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Re: Joseph, your infamy in "P" is still waning, but not gone yet!
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Aaron,
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What goes on in that board [Pravda] now is totally inconsequential and insignificant. For all practical purposes, it's nothing more than a "chat-room" for what's left of it's various opposing cliques, and nobody in the world takes it seriously. IOW, it's been rendered harmless.
Of course you're right about this, Joseph.
It's just hard to believe that the Russians are still financially sponsoring that adjunct to their now equally ridiculous and insignificant "yellow tabloid" of an online newspaper, and that they're still letting the drunkard zhurnalist represent them.
Please understand that my middle-of-the-night observation about that moribund forum came after weeks of spending all of my internet time in 2 of the connected e-mail rings and visiting only TFTF.
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6/5/2006, 7:39 pm
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Re: Joseph, your infamy in "P" is still waning, but not gone yet!
Joseph,
I wouldn't mind if you delete this, but I want to add this final side-note for the benefit of Pravda members who read TFTF.
You may have also received e-mails to this same effect, but 3 old-timers have informed me that VA has been totally banned from Pravda, and that all of his membership information has been deleted by an administrator. As far as I know, zhurn is still only a moderator, so he could not have done this.
Interesting turn of events, I thought.
A/G
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6/8/2006, 4:07 pm
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It is because I requested it to be deleted (if you were paying attention).
After Plsek's fixing of some of the forum software in late 2004, a Moderator can actually delete an ID without deleting the posts associated with it (and can change an ID to another name (such as Unbiased turning into Auld Nick and my NorseAmerican ID being changed back into vikingamerican in early 2004). One does not have to be an Administrator to do so. As I was instrumental in pushing the issue until Zhurn was demoted, I have accomplished my goal of seeing him whine / cry / and b.itch about losing his ability to moderate. Anything after that was gravy. I got to help in the permanent ban of Joe (after he deleted my ID using Zhurn's ID), and I got to help in bringing ZHurn down a peg (even if for but a day). I've accomplished my goal set back in 2004, and didn't have to do much to accomplish it.
As for any alleged collusions between Zhurn and I in 2004, you are again whistling in the wind and are throwing darts against a moving target. The only collusion was between Zhurn and Joe. I wouldn't have been so outspoken about Zhurn if I was colluding with him. I have posted quite a bit obout how Zhurn played Joe and I against each other. I also stated I banned Joe at Zhurn's request (while Zhurn claimed to Joe via email that he knew nothing of what was happening). You only have to connect the dots...... but you keep missing the target (so I have to think for you since your guesses are so far off base).
But as Joe said, that forum is irrelevent. As Zhurn does not practice what he preaches and pits everyone against each other (while making up new stories to keep the lemmings busy), and screams at Moscow that he will leave Pravda if not reinstated as a moderator after Nastasya demoted him during his last tirade. He also still protects many while Hypocritically banning or harrassing others for what the protected do.
I choose to no longer be there as it is a den of idiocy with no means of policing by the owners/editors. Read into this post what you will as I will not be coming back to check your response, but you and Joe have been so off base for so long, you believe your own press.
This post was to be clear so you both didn't guess what transpired (and claim your guess' as facts). Whether you believe me is irrelevent. The fact that I stated the Truth is.
'Nuff said......
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