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howard benson
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Rule Changes for 2010 ....
........... 'anything passing outside the pads down the legside is a wide'
two problems i've found with this
1. players will hear the rule has been changed and will assume anything down leg side is a wide
2. if a batsmen stands very square on, the ball can be going more than a couple of feet down leg side and would still have hit his pads, he moves inside the ball and is not happy when it is, correctly, under the rule, not given as a wide
i have found that the way to deal with wides that results in the least number of problems is
'Any ball passing behind the striker, from where he is stood or from a normal guard position, that subsequently passes wide of leg stump shall be called “Wide”'
this is hard on some bowlers but in my experience, this interpretation causes much less controversy than any other
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21/Oct/2009, 8:20 am
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Re: Rule Changes for 2010
Howard I think the interpretation that the players wanted was exactly as you have stated - the LCB knockout method.
Basically, any ball that passes the stumps on the legside, outside of the pads is a wide. Regardless of the actual bats stance it - if it goes past the legs and missed everything its a wide.
Like you say, if you know right from the off that this is the rule then there is no area for complaint and must aide consistency as everything will be given as a wide.
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Re: Rule Changes for 2010
Leg side wides FINALLY!!!
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21/Oct/2009, 9:05 am
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Re: Rule Changes for 2010
Its not gone through yet Si!!! There are still plenty of clubs that could vote against it and the fielding circles.
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21/Oct/2009, 11:11 am
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Re: Rule Changes for 2010
The fielding circles is a definately a change that needs to be made, it jus makes for more exciting cricket, i particularly enjoyed it as captian in the t20 as it gives u more to think about and brings a lot more tactics into the game.
Leg side wides also need to be introduced, as a ball down the leg side is a bad ball, however very difficult to score off. Therefore the bowler is gaining an advantage for bad bowling.
In term of the points system i believe that it does need altering. However, if the points for a win is going up to 9, i believe the points for incomplete games needs to be looked into. As one team could be rained off through no fault of there own, only gain 2 points were as another team may manage to sneak in a game & get 12.
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Re: Rule Changes for 2010
The only problem with the last palace shield meeting was the length of time it took to get to discussing the rule change proposals.
The meeting started at 7.30pm and we only started talking about them after 9pm by which time a lot of attendees had lost the will to live. Some actually had to leave before the end having no doubt attended straight from work. The minutes of of the executive meeting must have taken nearly an hour to be explained. These minutes are circulated in advance therefore in reality should have been proposed and seconded with any matters arising from them then being discussed IF NECESSARY. As a result the important rule change proposals came at the end when everybody had nearly lost interest. Some of them including 2 of the 3 mentioned above struggled to get proposers despite it being explained that the players wanted such changes from the players meeting. Luckily some attendees did formally propose and second them having grasped their importance. The meeting itself on Monday night did not conclude until 9.50pm. The management should look at its agenda at such meetings to ensure that it does not happen again. Executive reports should not need close on an hour to explain when they have been circulated in advance.   
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Re: Rule Changes for 2010
Agree completely! Indeed Mark Drinkall raised this very issue at the August meeting!
Before the start of last season the Chair said they were going to try and reduce the time taken for these meetings but bit by bit they have got longer and longer.....!
Basically it should be the Sec saying `you have the report in front of you` then running through each issue with a simple `any questions?` under each heading. If there is, discuss it, if not move straight onto the next issue. We elect the executive committee to run the league, let them get on and run it!
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Re: Rule Changes for 2010
Totally agree with pretty much everything said.
Re: cup rules - only clubs participating in that club should be able to vote on issues affecting it. Hence, you won't see me voting either way on anything affecting the Meyler/Loxham.
Re: Points - definitely a step in the right direction, though I'd still like bonuses for batting and bowling. I think points are deserved for the manner of victory and the all round performance.
Re: Leg side wides - this is a no brainer really!
Re: Meetings.... I did want to attend Mondays as it contained rule changes but due to something else that was ultra important and needed sorting, i didn't make it. For the most part though, meetings are a chore and a bore. Totally agree that in this day and age, most things can be communicated by email and unless there's something that needs a vote, why do we even need to get together? Even votes can be collected electronically.
Its about time we just had an AGM, a rules meeting and a pre-season meeting. That's all thats needed for ordinary business. If anything important crops up, just call an extraordinary meeting surely?
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Rule Changes for 2010 .......
..... a committee - something that takes minutes and wastes hours
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22/Oct/2009, 3:52 pm
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Re: Rule Changes for 2010
The changes that have been proposed are all positives, and it is nice to see the league continuing to look at a progressive way forward. My only hope is that some clubs don't have a negative outlook and vote against them.
Leg side wides - It'll be interesting to see umpires that will have to make decisions when the ball actually goes down the leg side!! Having said that they don't have to think about it just raise their arms.
Fielding circle - as Jamie has alluded to, captains have to manage their team and field settings more closely. It is only the same as the enforcement of bowling changes in cup competitions, having to find 5 bowlers rather than some using the usual 3 on a Saturday.
Likewise, size of grounds can be immaterial, at ecky with the fielding circle on there is about 10 yards at one end and 20 at the other, and if we play in the middle, square of the wicket either side it is plenty big enough!
The possible rule changes on the increase of points is a step forward, but still not enough for me!
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